From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <gentoo-dev+bounces-83254-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org> Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6C1A9138206 for <garchives@archives.gentoo.org>; Wed, 3 Jan 2018 10:35:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2F657E08C0; Wed, 3 Jan 2018 10:35:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (dev.gentoo.org [IPv6:2001:470:ea4a:1:5054:ff:fec7:86e4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D174BE0841 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Wed, 3 Jan 2018 10:35:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2001:44b8:4197:2800:a37a:5ec1:db17:1e49] (2001-44b8-4197-2800-a37a-5ec1-db17-1e49.static.ipv6.internode.on.net [IPv6:2001:44b8:4197:2800:a37a:5ec1:db17:1e49]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: kensington) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D432A335C0C for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Wed, 3 Jan 2018 10:35:41 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: Deleting old news items To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: <CAAr7Pr8CCPtSG5XQTgwcmmy2HK9UGiLACXCY+6smmnukK0S_bw@mail.gmail.com> From: Michael Palimaka <kensington@gentoo.org> Message-ID: <91012074-dad2-42cd-5031-e1b6674b1c9d@gentoo.org> Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2018 21:35:38 +1100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.5.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <CAAr7Pr8CCPtSG5XQTgwcmmy2HK9UGiLACXCY+6smmnukK0S_bw@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: 300dd2be-3513-49ed-8a8e-c98487073144 X-Archives-Hash: 0525caedb66f9a502bbbceb3d673250d On 01/03/2018 11:13 AM, Alec Warner wrote: > Problem: > > New stages have numerous news items listed that are likely not relevant, > but are shown due to limitations in the filtering in NEWS items. E.g. on > a recent stage3: > > nspawntest / # eselect news list > News items: > [1] N 2013-09-27 Separate /usr on Linux requires initramfs > [2] N 2014-06-15 GCC 4.8.3 defaults to -fstack-protector > [3] N 2014-10-26 GCC 4.7 Introduced the New C++11 ABI > [4] N 2015-02-02 New portage plug-in sync system > [5] N 2015-07-25 Python 3.4 enabled by default > [6] N 2015-08-13 OpenSSH 7.0 disables ssh-dss keys by default > [7] N 2015-10-22 GCC 5 Defaults to the New C++11 ABI > [8] N 2016-06-19 L10N USE_EXPAND variable replacing LINGUAS > [9] N 2017-11-30 New 17.0 profiles in the Gentoo repository > > Many of these are always displayed. For example: > > https://gitweb.gentoo.org/data/gentoo-news.git/tree/2015-02-04-portage-sync-changes/2015-02-04-portage-sync-changes.en.txt > > has "Display-If-Installed: sys-apps/portage" and will be displayed on > nearly every Gentoo machine. While relevant in 2015; I'm skeptical that > its relevant today. I am also considering explicit changes in the > filtering directives to resolve this in the future. > > Glep42 states: > > --- > News Item Removal > > News items can be removed (by removing the news file from the main tree) > when they are no longer relevant, if they are made obsolete by a future > news item or after a long period of time. This is the same as the method > used for updates entries. > --- > > I suggest we delete all entries prior to 2016. Git keeps history > forever, so folks can gander at the old entries on gitweb.gentoo.org > <http://gitweb.gentoo.org>: > > https://gitweb.gentoo.org/data/gentoo-news.git/tree/ > > -A I strongly support this idea. I've tried to push this several times in the past however was met with some resistance from several teams.