From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KpTBd-0005bA-97 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 19:34:37 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0453BE0391; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 19:34:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.170]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7FDCE0391 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 19:34:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 29so1793395wff.10 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:34:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=p7dzqODErtjQqkh2HnVZVD4mdDWhUx5KvDSEJKlMMTk=; b=x3QzIM4W8RwF1cngunrRrr50mydMpE+H5qBGxjHqvgwMrWAEbWz+dy7aJhlLOTuJF6 UF0lG0IE6z9S4BB8EsfO3hkV5JtG6tT+opBfpIaJ5j+Ljqu5E9UqLYhza5mWNtvustjW MplvELIiLpTcFZsaTU1DnYmIruptdfFD1UaZs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=hIw+fKhMYARQpw9/F+2Qa+t5bsAgyuVKdKT+nV3GHzxCWA3xlrPFSAgWnl3N5GCqBP EDZVOmnPrMQpwzG0WfYHHE9OVp6wMI//o3Mnj/9SJoWcOO8phsTfftMtqex7ajq3cYfb MjD7T7yC5ah9eM+c2SCgwsc+HKxX/y7phcJuA= Received: by 10.114.194.1 with SMTP id r1mr5835660waf.205.1223926475435; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:34:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.57.8 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:34:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <90b936c0810131234y76217ae2o6a7b37068ebd918e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 14:34:35 -0500 From: "Jeremy Olexa" Sender: jer.gentoo@gmail.com To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] System packages in (R)DEPEND? In-Reply-To: <48F22E15.5050604@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <48F22E15.5050604@gentoo.org> X-Google-Sender-Auth: e597a8dde6d6a9a5 X-Archives-Salt: c2fa5e03-31c3-4a86-a1cf-a0e25a55999d X-Archives-Hash: ffdf926f166124a5452eae04859d958b On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Thomas Sachau wrote: > I see packages like bison, flex, perl or sed in the system set. And i also see ebuilds depending on > them. I also heard from Peter Volkov (pva) that there where discussions about removing different > packages from the system set. So now my question is: > > Should we depend on all system packages? Should we depend on some packages, because they could be > removed? If yes, which ones? Or should we leave the system packages out completly? In my quick 30 seconds of searching I found at least one bug on this very issue. You may find more if you look for them. ;) https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=221311 Please provide reasons/justifications for the proposal of removing packages from the system set or from the ebuilds instead of just raising random questions (which end up with no results and hence just "noise"). -Jeremy