From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 61CDD139694 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 13:19:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9081C2740A4; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 13:19:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (mail.gentoo.org [IPv6:2001:470:ea4a:1:5054:ff:fec7:86e4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 38256214146 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 13:19:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.18.16.88] (unknown [81.89.200.130]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: marecki) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2E3CA341C8A for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 13:19:28 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: taking a break from arches stabilization To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: <1897557.6sYsMVzEX5@wanheda> <20170710225725.4c85c26a4f89fe53686f2fb2@gentoo.org> <20170711022906.39a6a2bfd78fb8e6f5f61b6f@gentoo.org> <0cb79760-99bd-9b95-8771-23af851e71c3@gentoo.org> <9069747f-2e1d-5573-e72d-f965deabb3c5@gentoo.org> <90786400-68ed-d443-5a81-6665bd942a26@gentoo.org> <10b75b04-7a56-2560-2223-2b1f3aa291db@gentoo.org> <43a295c3-d156-24bf-b679-39d0ac19181c@gentoo.org> <1eb5d6d5-78af-ca37-4708-f00fdb42ddc2@gentoo.org> From: Marek Szuba Message-ID: <9042a009-464f-9c18-8eff-1f7aad542498@gentoo.org> Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 15:19:26 +0159.55 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1eb5d6d5-78af-ca37-4708-f00fdb42ddc2@gentoo.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="1CwhbFjoQfpurS36lWfd2KWalSjnai2EC" X-Archives-Salt: c922b2c5-4c55-4a9b-957a-21a7b1c7bd45 X-Archives-Hash: dcf79ad689dbac6965e824ed6b4542ee This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --1CwhbFjoQfpurS36lWfd2KWalSjnai2EC Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="oCHKoR17I48VEWqRqq6Q9g1dodU0kLl93"; protected-headers="v1" From: Marek Szuba To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Message-ID: <9042a009-464f-9c18-8eff-1f7aad542498@gentoo.org> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: taking a break from arches stabilization References: <1897557.6sYsMVzEX5@wanheda> <20170710225725.4c85c26a4f89fe53686f2fb2@gentoo.org> <20170711022906.39a6a2bfd78fb8e6f5f61b6f@gentoo.org> <0cb79760-99bd-9b95-8771-23af851e71c3@gentoo.org> <9069747f-2e1d-5573-e72d-f965deabb3c5@gentoo.org> <90786400-68ed-d443-5a81-6665bd942a26@gentoo.org> <10b75b04-7a56-2560-2223-2b1f3aa291db@gentoo.org> <43a295c3-d156-24bf-b679-39d0ac19181c@gentoo.org> <1eb5d6d5-78af-ca37-4708-f00fdb42ddc2@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <1eb5d6d5-78af-ca37-4708-f00fdb42ddc2@gentoo.org> --oCHKoR17I48VEWqRqq6Q9g1dodU0kLl93 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2017-07-12 00:26, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: >> Question is what's more a problem: Having an outdated stable >> package because nobody cared about stabilizing a new version (in >> most cases this will end with a rushed stabilization once a >> security bug was fixed in the package) or move a package in time >> from ~ARCH to ARCH and deal with the fallout sometimes. > Easy, keep the working package any time Seconded. That said, let me repeat something I mentioned during the last discussion about stabilisation procedures: for me at least the problem with stabilisation has never really been with version upgrades, it's with packages which do not even have a single stable version. 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