From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mp9cZ-0005LS-Da for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 19 Sep 2009 23:45:39 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6321BE07C5; Sat, 19 Sep 2009 23:45:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-bw0-f211.google.com (mail-bw0-f211.google.com [209.85.218.211]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFBB1E07C5 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 2009 23:45:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz7 with SMTP id 7so1291389bwz.34 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 2009 16:45:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=2x5NeUF3zFwGMrx4jTBNBS986hPuuJH2KYVwr8x+yGo=; b=mI/MxAJS+7nppOYESWN7sXaNrK+kHU7ZywEzrNfL/9LkHf1WFayTNQFDb0kZuSD4zt cR/is9/FqFTuluIHqN/fMo2z3vFBBMUKC07RSMQ12TeTNf0BacGnzEIwyOtek6QMxOmH iDQbail3GSVCt+MMrdm/yIe1erX1aTya4JEvU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=jcevTTobLDAgRf97malqy3l8NRBPzpPwhfKXW5m5NGLh4jcOzhNPoK27hCIx9A9z5Y 2bcnljd4bvZ+WBEsHrPZqz5SyUA1AHAwbC4bLyTkJbMWOPfftBwFUsAmzkMrNdYjkJIO fSbR2T6nmE1ghBiMhLpdWWS+vhq1EOxYkHHZY= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.1.10 with SMTP id 10mr708222fad.94.1253403937192; Sat, 19 Sep 2009 16:45:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090919173126.0e18110f@gentoo.org> References: <200909191848.33225.Arfrever@gentoo.org> <200909200855.01012.ali_bush@gentoo.org> <20090919173126.0e18110f@gentoo.org> Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 01:45:37 +0200 Message-ID: <8effd1fb0909191645q45348d6ek5af3e4351c0decaf@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Stabilization of Python 3.1 From: Francesco R To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0ce0f3f66fbc6d0473f6d8d9 X-Archives-Salt: acd8a2e4-bef8-4bfb-aa56-508d89a0f966 X-Archives-Hash: 3c9580b0e032d1b3a37b6513f7e921e2 --000e0ce0f3f66fbc6d0473f6d8d9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 1:31 AM, Ryan Hill wrote: > On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 08:55:00 +1200 > Alistair Bush wrote: > > > > Stabilization of Python 3.1.* will be requested at the beginning of > > > november. There was a suggestion to create a news item which would > inform > > > users that temporarily they shouldn't switch to Python 3 as their main > > > interpreter. Python ebuilds don't automatically activate Python 3, so > I'm > > > not sure if the news item is required. What is your opinion about it? > > > > > > > Stablise. > > > > And to pacify all the cry babies out there could we update portage tools > to > > call /usr/bin/python2.6 directly? (yes I realise this will break, but at > least > > it is a suggestion) Or how about we (remove python3.1 from the > menu)/(stick > > a big fat warning message)/(do something else) on eselect-python. Or > create a > > "system-python" link that all gentoo core apps use instead of > /usr/bin/python > > (longer term solution?). [rant]Hell maybe we could even start using > those > > slot dep thingy me bobbies to depend only a slot. So ppl don't have > python3.1 > > unless something depends on it. Does portage have support for slots in > world? > > [/rant] > > Or we could, say, leave it ~arch. > > Why do you need python-3 in stable? > > Someone here want people install paludis? because when I've switched to python 3.0 just out of curiosity, it broke totally that python written package manager who is portage. So another package manager was needed to re-install a sane portage. Still, do you really want to have it in tree as stable? Really? Than at least please update eselect python in such a way it could not in any case be used to choose a python version >= 3 --000e0ce0f3f66fbc6d0473f6d8d9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 1:31 AM, Ryan Hi= ll <dirtyepic@= gentoo.org> wrote:
On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 08:55:00 +1200
Alistair Bush <ali_bush@gentoo.or= g> wrote:

> > Stabilization of Python 3.1.* will be requested at the beginning = of
> > =A0november. There was a suggestion to create a news item which w= ould inform
> > =A0users that temporarily they shouldn't switch to Python 3 a= s their main
> > =A0interpreter. Python ebuilds don't automatically activate P= ython 3, so I'm
> > =A0not sure if the news item is required. What is your opinion ab= out it?
> >
>
> Stablise.
>
> And to pacify all the cry babies out there could we update portage too= ls to
> call /usr/bin/python2.6 directly? (yes I realise this will break, but = at least
> it is a suggestion) =A0 Or how about we (remove python3.1 from the men= u)/(stick
> a big fat warning message)/(do something else) on eselect-python. =A0O= r create a
> "system-python" link that all gentoo core apps use instead o= f /usr/bin/python
> (longer term solution?). =A0[rant]Hell maybe we could even start using= those
> slot dep thingy me bobbies to depend only a slot. So ppl don't hav= e python3.1
> unless something depends on it. =A0Does portage have support for slots= in world?
> [/rant]

Or we could, say, leave it ~arch.

Why do you need python-3 in stable?


Som= eone here want people install paludis? because when I've switched to py= thon 3.0 just out of curiosity, it broke totally that python written packag= e manager who is portage.
So another package manager was needed to re-install a sane portage.

= Still, do you really want to have it in tree as stable? Really?
Than at = least please update eselect python in such a way it could not in any case b= e used to choose a python version >=3D 3


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