From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 955BF158041 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2024 14:38:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 763D92BC01C; Thu, 4 Apr 2024 14:38:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from james.steelbluetech.co.uk (james.steelbluetech.co.uk [78.40.151.100]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1AD182BC016 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2024 14:38:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ukinbox.ecrypt.net (hq2.ehuk.net [10.0.10.2]) by james.steelbluetech.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84D76BFC18 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2024 15:38:01 +0100 (BST) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 james.steelbluetech.co.uk 84D76BFC18 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ehuk.net; s=default; t=1712241481; bh=kl/UVlZC58x4vxhtnTwH/aS7aZayB3TcO8fVN8zRXXw=; h=In-Reply-To:References:Date:Subject:From:To:Reply-To:From; b=mTpC3q66SMd1YpauKzuriW83iRbffFIdZm8/YhqIkpbGHPZp0TZwupbE6kauUQxJY 0ZVNMGXxshpp152NKTDMJCUt3sRreNHEdNHZShyg1A9DNfO/7KHfPCOmSu+1sZx9jG +eBUcv8s9raGjL3SL3jU3BkP+hC0kfZ9eV0ePXgKJX3QG5h6/4+9x6AXK9H+rJWZ0d foYSCRkbnCXqBFITUJAj0N3KSCm/bmmPLhwqE4TAlbquCyouXg/GLjub0EmK8WCnsg FmmgY6KFWpJbJ30gxwP7iut5xBhnLCKMoDKYqSuObnX8jLxNWoBONUAAC6aUdmUQnJ cRq8ZicXEIVqw== Message-ID: <8efbd8d420d3b10bebb7bcd83d766b48.squirrel@ukinbox.ecrypt.net> In-Reply-To: <87frw1h6ju.fsf@gentoo.org> References: <875xwy8wxo.fsf@gentoo.org> <963ef0b6-7c2a-4730-b09d-5a829c3ff4c0@gmail.com> <87frw1h6ju.fsf@gentoo.org> Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2024 15:38:01 +0100 Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo From: "Eddie Chapman" To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.5.2 [SVN] Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang X-Archives-Salt: d9ee32a3-68f8-432d-a0b3-c99fceb96ff2 X-Archives-Hash: a7b25b7d049580a781c75c7a8264b727 Sam James wrote: > Eli Schwartz writes: > >> On 4/3/24 11:30 AM, Eddie Chapman wrote: >> >>> Just to report I've been able to remove app-arch/xz-utils from my own >>> workstation, with 2412 packages installed and running kde. I'm going >>> to roll it out to my other gentoo systems which have a lot less stuff >>> on them so am confident will be fine. It's not completely trivial but >>> not as difficult as I imagined it to be, certainly something an >>> advance Gentoo user could do if they wanted, with instructions. It >>> does involve a relatively small hack and functionality previously >>> provided by xz-utils is replaced by app-arch/p7zip. >> >> I'd just like to clarify my previous posts: what you're describing here >> is neat and productive and valid to my eyes. Actually, I wish this had >> been the topic of the *first* post in this thread. :) > > Completely agreed. We just prefer shorter text and focusing on technical > changes. > > This sounds fun! > > >> [...] >> > > thanks, sam Well, I didn't think my first post was so bad, but OK, I'll take that criticism onboard and in future will think more about how I bring something to this list, and will take into account what you and Eli have said. Thanks for sharing your thoughts above, both of you, in a constructive way. regards, Eddie