From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-dev+bounces-38366-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1N6REw-0007d1-Id for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:00:42 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 828A3E0BDD; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 16:00:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-iw0-f187.google.com (mail-iw0-f187.google.com [209.85.223.187]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C8C1E0BDD for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 16:00:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn17 with SMTP id 17so840806iwn.10 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 08:00:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=o0auJeyWMoDQ9sQ+fWI7tk/5e3mwoFq+lxCHtaHuydQ=; b=VWhbwcO8+sYSK1qf5D3HuoxAfBfQp/Qbk9CCQVoEDQW+Mn/lXUDEJ2ni1xzESSzEEI s6MX/QQzY1hNa1PQRyJ0EV5rmQWlvnUIRkEoM5fCHs+jWskDGVC7OrG2WwvyiHZY5Ro4 9ZdcGgelt9BBfUBiJsph6N3wh7euYwLanhnmA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=BgFwickO67HxcLOTOZ5Y4GF8r57jDAFETKRQ1zTn5OaehaYu/I6xO1UimtMI6O168K fnURTsf6ZMJb6BJzr0hrT54CjDNMsQuvaCff4Vn1E7Xb9VA68AmpDhHJCKz3pu995stR X08CWC75FNkF3YvITgjv1LaynkX3kui23yzOc= Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.153.69 with SMTP id j5mr1673796ibw.33.1257523212163; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 08:00:12 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <8b4c83ad0911060618r2b61c4b4w51238306b9c9a437@mail.gmail.com> References: <200911011736.38401.Arfrever@gentoo.org> <20091102151707.0b155aab@gentoo.org> <200911021724.01069.hwoarang@gentoo.org> <20091103191005.18d98e2e@gentoo.org> <e117dbb90911040436h249ce099s1bd09367b932f1bb@mail.gmail.com> <4AF1EBD8.4020502@gentoo.org> <20091104214823.64842abd@gentoo.org> <20091105091700.GA17478@eric.schwarzvogel.de> <4AF331B0.4020108@gentoo.org> <8b4c83ad0911060618r2b61c4b4w51238306b9c9a437@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 05:00:12 +1300 Message-ID: <8cd1ed20911060800h4d2f88f8l90efb09c026e1f91@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Improve policy of stabilizations From: Kent Fredric <kentfredric@gmail.com> To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636d33c7c5b9b380477b5f0aa X-Archives-Salt: e748f7ae-cf31-4984-9a9e-b7a123afbc2d X-Archives-Hash: b5147b39310da2a31b32c2b61a62ced8 --001636d33c7c5b9b380477b5f0aa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 3:18 AM, Nirbheek Chauhan <nirbheek@gentoo.org>wrote= : > On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:42 AM, Petteri R=E4ty <betelgeuse@gentoo.org> > wrote: > > In the past when smaller arches were not that active we used to mark > > Java packages stable after testing by at least one arch team. The > > probability to find arch specific issues in something like Java is not > > so high so I think arrangements like this are acceptable when the arch > > teams have problems keeping up. > > > > I think the same should be extended to other languages such as Perl > and Python (unless they have portions which are C/C++) > > You can't really, although Perl has a vm of sorts, the per-arch difference= s that occur as a side effect of endianness, different floating point/integer math ( 32bit vs 64bit ) , and all those differences impact code. and XS modules of course, they're prone to everything C is prone to. --=20 Kent perl -e "print substr( \"edrgmaM SPA NOcomil.ic\\@tfrken\", \$_ * 3, 3 ) for ( 9,8,0,7,1,6,5,4,3,2 );" http://kent-fredric.fox.geek.nz --001636d33c7c5b9b380477b5f0aa Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 3:18 AM, Nirbheek= Chauhan <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:nirbheek@gentoo.org">nirbh= eek@gentoo.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s= tyle=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204= ); padding-left: 1ex;"> <div class=3D"im">On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:42 AM, Petteri R=E4ty <<a hre= f=3D"mailto:betelgeuse@gentoo.org">betelgeuse@gentoo.org</a>> wrote:<br> > In the past when smaller arches were not that active we used to mark<b= r> > Java packages stable after testing by at least one arch team. The<br> > probability to find arch specific issues in something like Java is not= <br> > so high so I think arrangements like this are acceptable when the arch= <br> > teams have problems keeping up.<br> ><br> <br> </div>I think the same should be extended to other languages such as Perl<b= r> and Python (unless they have portions which are C/C++)<br> <font color=3D"#888888"><br> </font></blockquote><div>=A0</div><div>You can't really, although Perl = has a vm of sorts,=A0 the per-arch differences that occur as a side effect = of endianness, different floating point/integer math ( 32bit vs 64bit ) , a= nd all those differences impact code.<br> <br>and XS modules of course, they're prone to everything C is prone to= .<br></div></div><br>-- <br>Kent <br><br>perl -e =A0"print substr( \&q= uot;edrgmaM =A0SPA NOcomil.ic\\@tfrken\", \$_ * 3, 3 ) for ( 9,8,0,7,1= ,6,5,4,3,2 );"<br> <br><a href=3D"http://kent-fredric.fox.geek.nz">http://kent-fredric.fox.gee= k.nz</a><br> --001636d33c7c5b9b380477b5f0aa--