[gentoo-dev] Gentoo

[gentoo-dev] Gentoo

[Rev. Brendan Murphy]

Hi

    Just a few questions :-

        1. Problem with my isp cuts me off at regular intervals, so is
it posible to install gentoo by downloading the pkgs ect. install
scripts and install from a partition.
        2. GCC can compile for the K6 family of processors can portage
add this option not i586.
        3. Why do all linux distros presume we are attatched to a
network via lan my computer is a standalone no network card.

         Thanks to the Gentoo Dev Team


Brendan

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo

[Daniel Robbins]

On Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 10:27:44PM +0100, Rev. Brendan Murphy wrote:

>     Just a few questions :-
> 
>         1. Problem with my isp cuts me off at regular intervals, so is
> it posible to install gentoo by downloading the pkgs ect. install
> scripts and install from a partition.

We have a build CD that is only around 40 Megs or so; maybe that would
work?

>         2. GCC can compile for the K6 family of processors can portage
> add this option not i586.

You can add the appropriate options to /etc/make.conf.

>         3. Why do all linux distros presume we are attatched to a
> network via lan my computer is a standalone no network card.

Don't know :)

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Gentoo Technologies, Inc.			

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo

[Ben Lutgens]

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On Sun, Aug 05, 2001 at 03:39:04PM -0600, Daniel Robbins wrote:
>On Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 10:27:44PM +0100, Rev. Brendan Murphy wrote:
>
>>     Just a few questions :-
>> 
>>         1. Problem with my isp cuts me off at regular intervals, so is
>> it posible to install gentoo by downloading the pkgs ect. install
>> scripts and install from a partition.

Your ISP sucks, get a new one. They are a dime a dozen and that sort of
"service" is very bad. 

You could use prozilla or wget -c to grab the iso over several downloads.

>>         3. Why do all linux distros presume we are attatched to a
>> network via lan my computer is a standalone no network card.

Because linux is an operating system desinged to run on and support
networks. 

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Sistina Software Inc.	

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God doesn't think that he is root. 

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo

[Karl Trygve Kalleberg]

On Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 10:27:44PM +0100, Rev. Brendan Murphy wrote:
> Hi
> 
>     Just a few questions :-
> 
>         1. Problem with my isp cuts me off at regular intervals, so is
> it posible to install gentoo by downloading the pkgs ect. install
> scripts and install from a partition.

In /etc/make.conf, set
FETCHCOMMAND="/usr/bin/wget -T15 -t0 \${x} -P \${DISTDIR}"

This will use wget to fetch all packages, retrying indefinitely until the
package is down.

It's nice for those ultra-cheap ISPs which are totally overbooked but
still cheaper to use than real ISPs if you have a lot of patience.

Also, another trick with these crappy ISPs is to download through the
ISP's proxy. They sometimes give their own machines higher priority than
their clients', and this might include the proxy.

Kind regards,

Karl T

PS. I've worked for _real_ ISP.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo

[Collins Richey]

On Sun, 5 Aug 2001 15:39:04 -0600 Daniel Robbins <drobbins@gentoo.org>
wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 10:27:44PM +0100, Rev. Brendan Murphy wrote:
> 
> >     Just a few questions :-
> > 
> >         1. Problem with my isp cuts me off at regular intervals, so is
> > it posible to install gentoo by downloading the pkgs ect. install
> > scripts and install from a partition.
> 
> We have a build CD that is only around 40 Megs or so; maybe that would
> work?
> 
> >         2. GCC can compile for the K6 family of processors can portage
> > add this option not i586.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.  I presume that you can add anything that
is legitimate for the GCC compiler in /etc/make.conf CHOST=, CFLAGS=,
CXXFLAGS=, and portage will use it.

> 
> You can add the appropriate options to /etc/make.conf.
> 
> >         3. Why do all linux distros presume we are attatched to a
> > network via lan my computer is a standalone no network card.
> 
> Don't know :)
> 

I'll presume to answer your question.  All distros do not presume a
network connection.  Many of the distros are supplied on CDROM, and some
even provide an update service on CDROM.  You can certainly try one of
these.

Gentoo is by design an install-and-upgrade-from-source distro; a network
connection is required.  Gentoo is still very much in start up mode - not
even at version 1.0.  I get good results using my cable connection, but I
might not be as pleased if I had only a 56K dialup connection or, God
forbid, no connection.

I would think that Gentoo as well will offer CDROMs once they have all of
the other distro details nailed down, but that doesn't appear to be in the
cards right now.  There's too much work left to do to worry about
distributing CDROMs.

I'm a committed Gentoo fan, and I don't want to scare you off, but you
might want to try something like VectorLinux.  They offer a workable,
up-to-date distro that uses minimal space, and a CDROM is available.  But
you'll still want to download additional software, and that's going to be
painful, especially if you don't have a reliable ISP.

Or, maybe you have a friend with a high speed connection that could
download and burn CDROMs for you?

---
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Denver Area
Gentoo_rc5 XFCE

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo

[Dan Armak]

> Gentoo is by design an install-and-upgrade-from-source distro; a network
> connection is required.  Gentoo is still very much in start up mode - not
> even at version 1.0.  I get good results using my cable connection, but I
> might not be as pleased if I had only a 56K dialup connection or, God
> forbid, no connection.

I have a 56k dialup, and it's not an "pay once, unlimited connection" either. 
And I'm not complaining. Much. Anyway I've downloaded all gentoo package 
sources about 2 1/2 times. How the time files by...


-- 

Dan Armak
Gentoo Linux Developer, Desktop Team
Matan, Israel

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo

[Dan Armak]

On Thursday 02 August 2001 00:27, you wrote:
> Hi
>
>     Just a few questions :-
>
>         1. Problem with my isp cuts me off at regular intervals, so is
> it posible to install gentoo by downloading the pkgs ect. install
> scripts and install from a partition.
>         2. GCC can compile for the K6 family of processors can portage
> add this option not i586.
There *are* k6 options in make.conf. Make sure you have the latest make.conf 
though. I'm not sure about the original k6 however. For k6-2 and k6-III it 
works.

-- 

Dan Armak
Gentoo Linux Developer, Desktop Team
Matan, Israel

[gentoo-dev] Gentoo

[Matt Fuerst]

You guys should make a Sparc distribution! That would rock. Sure it's a tiny
market, but who else covers it? Everyone I know is still running RedHat 6.2
on their Sparc boxes.(The only other mentionable is SuSE...)

You would find them to be a loyal, happy to donate cash bunch I think...

Matt

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo

[John Dee]

Okay, now you're entering into evil territory..

I'm game :)


Matt Fuerst wrote:
> You guys should make a Sparc distribution! That would rock. Sure it's a tiny
> market, but who else covers it? Everyone I know is still running RedHat 6.2
> on their Sparc boxes.(The only other mentionable is SuSE...)
> 
> You would find them to be a loyal, happy to donate cash bunch I think...
> 
> Matt
> 
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo

[Bart Lauwers]

Check the mailing list archive someone is already working on it, join the
effort... or come back next week and find a port. (If all goes well.)

PS: The archive is on http://fireserver.ath.cx/gentoo/search/

On Tue, 16 Apr 2002, John Dee wrote:

> Okay, now you're entering into evil territory..
>
> I'm game :)
>
>
> Matt Fuerst wrote:
> > You guys should make a Sparc distribution! That would rock. Sure it's
> > a tiny market, but who else covers it? Everyone I know is still
> > running RedHat 6.2 on their Sparc boxes.(The only other mentionable is
> > SuSE...)
> >
> > You would find them to be a loyal, happy to donate cash bunch I think...
> >
> > Matt

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo

[John Dee]

awww, you're gonna make me *SEARCH* for stuff?
meanie.


Bart Lauwers wrote:
> Check the mailing list archive someone is already working on it, join the
> effort... or come back next week and find a port. (If all goes well.)
> 
> PS: The archive is on http://fireserver.ath.cx/gentoo/search/
> 
> On Tue, 16 Apr 2002, John Dee wrote:
> 
> 
>>Okay, now you're entering into evil territory..
>>
>>I'm game :)
>>
>>
>>Matt Fuerst wrote:
>>
>>>You guys should make a Sparc distribution! That would rock. Sure it's
>>>a tiny market, but who else covers it? Everyone I know is still
>>>running RedHat 6.2 on their Sparc boxes.(The only other mentionable is
>>>SuSE...)
>>>
>>>You would find them to be a loyal, happy to donate cash bunch I think...
>>>
>>>Matt
>>
> 
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[gentoo-dev] Gentoo

[Jonathan]

Hi,

Just checking to make sure that you got our note that we are now
supplying Gentoo 1.2.

Take a look at our site (www.yourlinux.co.uk) and let us know if
we are worthy of a mention.. it would be much appreciated :)

Thanks,

Jonathan

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[gentoo-dev] gentoo

[Alti Vec]

This loooked like it would've been an interesting linux to install and use

I was proven wrong, its way more convoluted and difficult than slackware and 
debian were on my system.

Does gentoo ever expect their linux to become "popular" or just another 
choice in the pile?


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Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo

[Dan Stone]

On Sunday 11 August 2002 11:15 pm, Alti Vec wrote:
> This loooked like it would've been an interesting linux to install and use
>
> I was proven wrong, its way more convoluted and difficult than slackware
> and debian were on my system.
>
> Does gentoo ever expect their linux to become "popular" or just another
> choice in the pile?

So, help us out by telling us what you didn't like?  What you found convoluted 
and more difficult?  The only way Gentoo can become a better distro is with 
people's input...so let's have it!

~D. A. Stone

Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo

[Troy Dack]

On Mon, 2002-08-12 at 16:15, Alti Vec wrote:
> 
> This loooked like it would've been an interesting linux to install and use
> 
> I was proven wrong, its way more convoluted and difficult than slackware and 
> debian were on my system.

I'd have to say that it is intentionally more difficult to install than
Slackware and Debian, or for that matter Red Hat or Mandrake.

 
> Does gentoo ever expect their linux to become "popular" or just another 
> choice in the pile?

I think Gentoo is very popular at the moment, but it is popular with a
specific set of people -- those that are willing to make the effort to
learn how all the pieces fit together, or those that already know how
they fit but want a bit more control.

I don't think that Gentoo is ever going to become as popular (or stable)
as <insert major distribution here> and it's not really aiming to take
over those "markets".

For those who have suitable hardware, curiosity and patience, Gentoo is
a nice (if somewhat frustrating at times) "distribution" to play with. 
Personally it's taught me a great deal more about how all the bit fit
together to produce a Linux based workstation.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo

[Jonathan Kelly]

On Mon, 12 Aug 2002 06:15:42 +0000
"Alti Vec" <altivec2001@hotmail.com> wrote:

> 
> This loooked like it would've been an interesting linux to install and
> use
> 
> I was proven wrong, its way more convoluted and difficult than slackware
> and debian were on my system.
> 
> Does gentoo ever expect their linux to become "popular" or just another 
> choice in the pile?
> 

No, you're right, we're all idiots, wasting our time, and yours, and for
that, we're really sorry. Sorry to have disturbed you, in whatever world
it is you live in.

Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo

[Lim, Kim Yong]

As Daniel Robbins responded in a recent interview. 

Gentoo is for seasoned power users who wants to tweak 
their systems and for newbies who wants to learn the workings of linux.

It may be convoluted to some and it remain the same unless the same users
who complained explain why it is so.

Anyway, gentoo in its current form is way easier than the first alpha when
portage was using perl

KY

> On Mon, 12 Aug 2002 06:15:42 +0000
> "Alti Vec" <altivec2001@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > This loooked like it would've been an interesting linux to install and
> > use
> > 
> > I was proven wrong, its way more convoluted and difficult than slackware
> > and debian were on my system.
> > 
> > Does gentoo ever expect their linux to become "popular" or just another 
> > choice in the pile?
> > 
> 
> No, you're right, we're all idiots, wasting our time, and yours, and for
> that, we're really sorry. Sorry to have disturbed you, in whatever world
> it is you live in.
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Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo

[Jeremiah Mahler]

On Mon, Aug 12, 2002 at 06:15:42AM +0000, Alti Vec wrote:
> 
> This loooked like it would've been an interesting linux to install and use
> 
> I was proven wrong, its way more convoluted and difficult than slackware 
> and debian were on my system.
> 
> Does gentoo ever expect their linux to become "popular" or just another 
> choice in the pile?
> 
> 
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Projects that are trying to be popular:

 Java
 RedHat
 SuSe
 anything Microsoft

Projects that couldn't care less if they were popular:

 Gentoo
 Perl
 Clisp
 Python
 Debian

I don't know why, but I tend to be attracted to projects that are not
trying to be popular.

-- 
Jeremiah Mahler
<jmahler@pacbell.net>

Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo

[Matthew Kennedy]

Jeremiah Mahler <jmahler@pacbell.net> writes:

> On Mon, Aug 12, 2002 at 06:15:42AM +0000, Alti Vec wrote:
> > 
> > This loooked like it would've been an interesting linux to install and use
> 
> Projects that are trying to be popular:
> 
>  Java
>  RedHat
>  SuSe
>  anything Microsoft

Hmmm... haven't you just given 4 examples of projects which *are*
popular? :)

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Gentoo Linux Developer
Bugs go to http://bugs.gentoo.org!

Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo

[Wilbert van Bakel]

Hey Alti,
Welcome to the club!!!

I love to listen to music for the emotions and the embiance it creates. 
I am aware of which music styles I like and why.
Its also possible to enjoy music for the technical aspects, DVD audio, 
or SACD, electrostatic speakers, or high end head phones.

Anyway, Gentoo is maybe more for people who want to play around with 
bits and think that -funroll-loops is an advantage for them.

One of the advantages of Gentoo, which I think is important for me, is 
that the Gentoo team is committed to offer the latest improvements in 
software.
It is even not hard to keep your system up to date.

We are able to use Gnome-2.2, where Debian is still at a safer Gnome-1.4.
And it is up to you to explore your needs and to find the distribution 
which meets your need.
Besides that, the Gentoo users community is very very friendly and helpful.

So, what are you exactly looking for in a distribution, Alti?

Enjoy!
Wilbert van Bakel

Alti Vec wrote:

>
> This loooked like it would've been an interesting linux to install and 
> use
>
> I was proven wrong, its way more convoluted and difficult than 
> slackware and debian were on my system.
>
> Does gentoo ever expect their linux to become "popular" or just 
> another choice in the pile?
>
>
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Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo

[Jeremiah Mahler]

On Mon, Aug 12, 2002 at 12:17:41PM -0500, Matthew Kennedy wrote:
> Jeremiah Mahler <jmahler@pacbell.net> writes:
> 
> > On Mon, Aug 12, 2002 at 06:15:42AM +0000, Alti Vec wrote:
> > > 
> > > This loooked like it would've been an interesting linux to install and use
> > 
> > Projects that are trying to be popular:
> > 
> >  Java
> >  RedHat
> >  SuSe
> >  anything Microsoft
> 
> Hmmm... haven't you just given 4 examples of projects which *are*
> popular? :)
> 

I wasn't saying that those are not popular. They are popular, and
they are also trying to be popular, unlike the other things I mentioned.
The things I tend to use most are things which are not trying to be
popular but are.

> -- 
> Matthew Kennedy
> Gentoo Linux Developer
> Bugs go to http://bugs.gentoo.org!
> 

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<jmahler@pacbell.net>

Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo

[Dan Stone]

On Monday 12 August 2002 10:29 am, Jeremiah Mahler wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 12, 2002 at 12:17:41PM -0500, Matthew Kennedy wrote:
> > Jeremiah Mahler <jmahler@pacbell.net> writes:
> > > On Mon, Aug 12, 2002 at 06:15:42AM +0000, Alti Vec wrote:
> > > > This loooked like it would've been an interesting linux to install
> > > > and use
> > >
> > > Projects that are trying to be popular:
> > >
> > >  Java
> > >  RedHat
> > >  SuSe
> > >  anything Microsoft
> >
> > Hmmm... haven't you just given 4 examples of projects which *are*
> > popular? :)
>
> I wasn't saying that those are not popular. They are popular, and
> they are also trying to be popular, unlike the other things I mentioned.
> The things I tend to use most are things which are not trying to be
> popular but are.
>
> > --
> > Matthew Kennedy
> > Gentoo Linux Developer
> > Bugs go to http://bugs.gentoo.org!

I think it's somewhat similar to the projects I'm attracted to -- projects 
that don't try to be popular, but because they're useful, and mostly 
well-designed, it's inevitable that they become popular / widely used, simply 
because people who are 'in the know' prefer them...whereas Microsoft, et al 
are popular because their marketing tells you that they are ^_~

~D. A. Stone

Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo

[Michael Kohl]

Am Mon, 2002-08-12 um 19.26 schrieb Wilbert van Bakel:
> So, what are you exactly looking for in a distribution, Alti?

I'm not yet sure if that is exactly the thing I would ask someone who
uses an Apple technology as name and has a Hotmail account ;-)

As far as I'm concernded (being a Debian convert) Gentoo is almost all
I've ever wanted out of a distribution. It gives me all the freedom I
can imagine, and it is a great opportunity to play around with things
you don't even see in other distris.

More difficult? Maybe, but there are enough mailinglist and the forums
to cover all your questions, and the Gentoo community is by far the
nicest I have seen in my two and a half years in the GNU/Linux
community.

Worth the effort? That's the thing you have to decide for yourself.If
you don't like to learn/know what's going on behind the scenes/tweak
around at every possible part of your system just for the sake of it,
maybe not. If you want a distribution that fits exactly your need and
gives you freedom and choice over almost everything, then you've found
it.

Another thing I've discovered using Gentoo is that in a way it makes me
forget which OS I use. It plain and simply works, exactly the way I want
it to. I've achieved more in less time than with any other distribution
I've ever used (have been quite a few, including BSD flavors).

So, hooray to the Gentoo devs, keep up the good work and stay true to
your vision!

Thanks for not creating yet another Linux distro,
Michael

Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo

[Marius Bernklev]

mguertin@macdiscussion.com writes:

> On 08-12-2002 01:49 pm, you wrote:
>
>> Am Mon, 2002-08-12 um 19.26 schrieb Wilbert van Bakel:
>> > So, what are you exactly looking for in a distribution, Alti?
>> 
>> I\'m not yet sure if that is exactly the thing I would ask someone
> who
>> uses an Apple technology as name and has a Hotmail account ;-)
>
> Actually it\'s Motorola technology, but I won\'t go there ;)

let me guess.  You're using a PHP based webmail thingie? :P


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Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo

[mguertin]

On 08-12-2002 01:49 pm, you wrote:

> Am Mon, 2002-08-12 um 19.26 schrieb Wilbert van Bakel:
> > So, what are you exactly looking for in a distribution, Alti?
> 
> I\'m not yet sure if that is exactly the thing I would ask someone
who
> uses an Apple technology as name and has a Hotmail account ;-)

Actually it\'s Motorola technology, but I won\'t go there ;)

As for his initial post, who cares, it\'s flaimbait as I see it, if he
thinks gentoo is not cool enough or too difficult then by all means
please go back to using Debian/Slackware and months old \'new\' pkgs and
stop flaming out lists :P

Gentoo _is_  popular according to everything I\'ve seen/read/heard.

Mark

[gentoo-dev] gentoo

[hoochie mamma]

Hello
     I have a REALLY bad laptop that I got for free the specs are (486, 8 
megs of RAM, 550 megs of hardisk space and a generic video card) I was 
wondering if I have any chance running Gentoo on it?

PS: I dont care how slow it will run but I just want it to run.

Thanks

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Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo

[mike]

yes if you compile the packages on another machine and extract
them on the local machine
basically, look into the 'build package' and 'use package' options.
`emerge --help` and `man 5 ebuild`
problem though ... the --usepkg option in emerge seems to be
completely broken in 2.0.28 :(
-mike

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Subject: [gentoo-dev] gentoo


> Hello
>      I have a REALLY bad laptop that I got for free the specs are (486, 8
> megs of RAM, 550 megs of hardisk space and a generic video card) I was
> wondering if I have any chance running Gentoo on it?
>
> PS: I dont care how slow it will run but I just want it to run.
>
> Thanks
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[gentoo-dev] GeNToo

[Patrick Lauer]

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Hi all,

we are happy to be one step further in our way to market domination.
GeNToo is an experimental branch of Gentoo running on the NT kernel.

Our project website is:
http://gentooexperimental.org/nt/

Enjoy!

Patrick


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Re: [gentoo-dev] GeNToo

[Konstantin V. Arkhipov]

On Friday 01 April 2005 14:28, Patrick Lauer wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> we are happy to be one step further in our way to market domination.
> GeNToo is an experimental branch of Gentoo running on the NT kernel.
>
> Our project website is:
> http://gentooexperimental.org/nt/

any plans to support OpenVMS [1] and/or OS/2 [2] as well?

> Enjoy!

[1] http://www.openvms.org/
[2] http://www.ibm.com/software/os/warp/

> Patrick

ps: awesome work, Patrick ;-)

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Re: [gentoo-dev] GeNToo

[Chris Gianelloni]

On Fri, 2005-04-01 at 12:28 +0200, Patrick Lauer wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> we are happy to be one step further in our way to market domination.
> GeNToo is an experimental branch of Gentoo running on the NT kernel.
> 
> Our project website is:
> http://gentooexperimental.org/nt/

For those of you screaming "Show me the source!", I've added
winxp-sources to the tree.  Everyone be sure to thank our anonymous
Russian hacker, Crash Override, for this wonderful addition to the
portage tree.

wolf31o2@inertia ~ $ emerge -vp winxp-sources

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild  N    ] sys-kernel/winxp-sources-5.1.2180  0 kB [1]

Expect to see a new GeNToo LiveCD released by the end of the week.  We
even ported it all to sparc, just to spite ciaranm.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] GeNToo

[Peter Gordon]

O_o
*blink*
*blink*
o_O


This is an April Fool's joke...right?
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Re: [gentoo-dev] GeNToo

[Jose Mª Calvillo aka Lechucks]

hello, i am from spain (europe) , Today isnt here APryl Fool´s. 

in spain april fool´s is 28 december.

xD

On Apr 1, 2005 7:30 PM, Peter Gordon <admin@ramshacklestudios.com> wrote:
> O_o
> *blink*
> *blink*
> o_O
> 
> This is an April Fool's joke...right?
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Re: [gentoo-dev] GeNToo

[Julien Cabillot]

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Jose Mª Calvillo aka Lechucks wrote:

>hello, i am from spain (europe) , Today isnt here APryl Fool´s. 
>
>in spain april fool´s is 28 december.
>
>xD
>
>On Apr 1, 2005 7:30 PM, Peter Gordon <admin@ramshacklestudios.com> wrote:
>  
>
>>O_o
>>*blink*
>>*blink*
>>o_O
>>
>>This is an April Fool's joke...right?
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>>
>
>
>  
>
It's strange in the rest of the Europe it's today.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] GeNToo

[Jose Mª Calvillo aka Lechucks]

ok, that´s the aswer "Spain is different" :)

On Apr 1, 2005 7:49 PM, Julien Cabillot <jcabillot@gmail.com> wrote:
> Jose Mª Calvillo aka Lechucks wrote:
> 
> >hello, i am from spain (europe) , Today isnt here APryl Fool´s.
> >
> >in spain april fool´s is 28 december.
> >
> >xD
> >
> >On Apr 1, 2005 7:30 PM, Peter Gordon <admin@ramshacklestudios.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>O_o
> >>*blink*
> >>*blink*
> >>o_O
> >>
> >>This is an April Fool's joke...right?
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> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> It's strange in the rest of the Europe it's today.
> 
> 
> 


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Re: [gentoo-dev] GeNToo

[Daniel Armyr]

> For those of you screaming "Show me the source!", I've added
> winxp-sources to the tree.  Everyone be sure to thank our anonymous
> Russian hacker, Crash Override, for this wonderful addition to the
> portage tree.
> 
> wolf31o2@inertia ~ $ emerge -vp winxp-sources
> 
> These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
> 
> Calculating dependencies ...done!
> [ebuild  N    ] sys-kernel/winxp-sources-5.1.2180  0 kB [1]

Looks like my sync server is having a slow day. The winxp-sources haven't made it here yet.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] GeNToo

[Rob Cakebread]

Daniel Armyr wrote:
>>For those of you screaming "Show me the source!", I've added
>>winxp-sources to the tree.  Everyone be sure to thank our anonymous
>>Russian hacker, Crash Override, for this wonderful addition to the
>>portage tree.
>>
>>wolf31o2@inertia ~ $ emerge -vp winxp-sources
>>
>>These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
>>
>>Calculating dependencies ...done!
>>[ebuild  N    ] sys-kernel/winxp-sources-5.1.2180  0 kB [1]
> 
> 
> Looks like my sync server is having a slow day. The winxp-sources haven't made it here yet.
> 

Thats because they were hosted on gentooexperimental.org, which just got 
slashdotted:

http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/04/01/1453253&tid=190&tid=106

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Re: [gentoo-dev] GeNToo

[Rob Cakebread]

Daniel Armyr wrote:
>>For those of you screaming "Show me the source!", I've added
>>winxp-sources to the tree.  Everyone be sure to thank our anonymous
>>Russian hacker, Crash Override, for this wonderful addition to the
>>portage tree.
>>
>>wolf31o2@inertia ~ $ emerge -vp winxp-sources
>>
>>These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
>>
>>Calculating dependencies ...done!
>>[ebuild  N    ] sys-kernel/winxp-sources-5.1.2180  0 kB [1]
> 
> 
> Looks like my sync server is having a slow day. The winxp-sources haven't made it here yet.
> 

Thats because they were hosted on gentooexperimental.org, which just got 
slashdotted:

http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/04/01/1453253&tid=190&tid=106

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Re: [gentoo-dev] GeNToo

[Peter Gordon]

Quoting Daniel Armyr <daniel.armyr@home.se>:
> > wolf31o2@inertia ~ $ emerge -vp winxp-sources
> >
> > These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
> >
> > Calculating dependencies ...done!
> > [ebuild  N    ] sys-kernel/winxp-sources-5.1.2180  0 kB [1]
>
> Looks like my sync server is having a slow day. The winxp-sources haven't
> made it here yet.

Don't forget to add "roflcoptar-haxz0rzed-war3z" to your FEATURES to enable it
;-)
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Re: [gentoo-dev] GeNToo

[Octavio Ruiz (Ta^3)]

Jose Mª Calvillo aka Lechucks, who happens to be smarter than you, thinks:
> ok, that´s the aswer "Spain is different" :)

Mexico too, 28 Dec. is " el día de los Santos Inocentes" (the innocent saints'
day). 

x-D

> On Apr 1, 2005 7:49 PM, Julien Cabillot <jcabillot@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Jose Mª Calvillo aka Lechucks wrote:
> > >hello, i am from spain (europe) , Today isnt here APryl Fool´s.
> > >in spain april fool´s is 28 december.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] GeNToo

[Daniel Armyr]

> > Looks like my sync server is having a slow day. The winxp-sources haven't made it here yet.
> > 
> 
> Thats because they were hosted on gentooexperimental.org, which just got 
> slashdotted:
> 
Very impressive. The fact that the install script isn't /actually/ available anywhere is a setback, but except for that you did a really good job.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo

[Ciaran McCreesh]

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On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 19:49:18 +0100 Filip Bartmann <filbar@linpro.cz>
wrote:
| I want have Gentoo in e-shop with Linux distributions. I find, that
| Gentoo is under GNU/GPL. Must I distribute in e-shop sources of
| Gentoo too? Where I can found them(sources)? Where I can found
| graphics, which I can use on CD with Gentoo?

Consult your lawyer. Any legal advice you get on this list will be
bogus.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo

[lnxg33k]

Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 19:49:18 +0100 Filip Bartmann <filbar@linpro.cz>
> wrote:
> | I want have Gentoo in e-shop with Linux distributions. I find, that
> | Gentoo is under GNU/GPL. Must I distribute in e-shop sources of
> | Gentoo too? Where I can found them(sources)? Where I can found
> | graphics, which I can use on CD with Gentoo?
> 
> Consult your lawyer. Any legal advice you get on this list will be
> bogus.
> 

Any legal advice given by those not in a position to give said advice (a
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo

[George Prowse]

On 24/11/05, lnxg33k <lnxg33k@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 19:49:18 +0100 Filip Bartmann <filbar@linpro.cz>
> > wrote:
> > | I want have Gentoo in e-shop with Linux distributions. I find, that
> > | Gentoo is under GNU/GPL. Must I distribute in e-shop sources of
> > | Gentoo too? Where I can found them(sources)? Where I can found
> > | graphics, which I can use on CD with Gentoo?
> >
> > Consult your lawyer. Any legal advice you get on this list will be
> > bogus.
> >
>
> Any legal advice given by those not in a position to give said advice (a
> licensed attornery) is actually illegal -- just some general info.
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Being consulted on legal matters under the pretense that you are
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo

[Paul de Vrieze]

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On Thursday 24 November 2005 22:42, lnxg33k wrote:
> Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 19:49:18 +0100 Filip Bartmann <filbar@linpro.cz>
> >
> > wrote:
> > | I want have Gentoo in e-shop with Linux distributions. I find, that
> > | Gentoo is under GNU/GPL. Must I distribute in e-shop sources of
> > | Gentoo too? Where I can found them(sources)? Where I can found
> > | graphics, which I can use on CD with Gentoo?
> >
> > Consult your lawyer. Any legal advice you get on this list will be
> > bogus.
>
> Any legal advice given by those not in a position to give said advice
> (a licensed attornery) is actually illegal -- just some general info.

That actually depends on where the person gives the advise from. Of course 
making people believe you are a lawyer while you aren't is illegal in 
most jurisdictions (btw. I'm not a lawyer).

Paul

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo

[lnxg33k]

George Prowse wrote:
> On 24/11/05, lnxg33k <lnxg33k@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 19:49:18 +0100 Filip Bartmann <filbar@linpro.cz>
>>>wrote:
>>>| I want have Gentoo in e-shop with Linux distributions. I find, that
>>>| Gentoo is under GNU/GPL. Must I distribute in e-shop sources of
>>>| Gentoo too? Where I can found them(sources)? Where I can found
>>>| graphics, which I can use on CD with Gentoo?
>>>
>>>Consult your lawyer. Any legal advice you get on this list will be
>>>bogus.
>>>
>>
>>Any legal advice given by those not in a position to give said advice (a
>>licensed attornery) is actually illegal -- just some general info.
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>>
>>
> 
> Being consulted on legal matters under the pretense that you are
> qualified to do so is fraud but any one can advise on legal matters.
> 

Been away letting mail stack up. However, yes, that is indeed true. I failed to
qualify that a bit more.
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[gentoo-dev] Gentoo

[Rick Sivernell]

 I am trying to contact somebody in charge of gentoo. I have tried for years now to get my email address off your list, but all has failed. If someone knows this person or will send me the email address so that I may contact them, I would appreciate this. Currently this is eating our bandwidth and I am sending all to the trash bin now.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo

[Petteri Räty]

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Rick Sivernell kirjoitti:
>  I am trying to contact somebody in charge of gentoo. I have tried for years now to get my email address off your list, but all has failed. If someone knows this person or will send me the email address so that I may contact them, I would appreciate this. Currently this is eating our bandwidth and I am sending all to the trash bin now.
> 

http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/lists.xml

Regards,
Petteri


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RE: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo

[Chrissy Fullam]

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Subject: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo


 I am trying to contact somebody in charge of gentoo. I have tried for years
now to get my email address off your list, but all has failed. If someone
knows this person or will send me the email address so that I may contact
them, I would appreciate this. Currently this is eating our bandwidth and I
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo

[Michael Sullivan]

On Fri, 2007-07-13 at 07:16 -0500, Rick Sivernell wrote:
>  I am trying to contact somebody in charge of gentoo. I have tried for years now to get my email address off your list, but all has failed. If someone knows this person or will send me the email address so that I may contact them, I would appreciate this. Currently this is eating our bandwidth and I am sending all to the trash bin now.
> 
> -- 
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>  Dallas, Texas  75287
>  972 306-2296
>  res005ru@verizon.net
>  Registered Linux User

Wow.  You've been trying to get off this list for YEARS?  And the
unsubscribe information has been in the headers of every email this list
sends out.  You must feel pretty foolish about now.  BTW, it's not the
list administrator's job to unsubscribe people.
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo

[Mike Frysinger]

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On Tuesday 17 July 2007, Michael Sullivan wrote:
> On Fri, 2007-07-13 at 07:16 -0500, Rick Sivernell wrote:
> >  I am trying to contact somebody in charge of gentoo. I have tried for
> > years now to get my email address off your list, but all has failed. If
> > someone knows this person or will send me the email address so that I may
> > contact them, I would appreciate this. Currently this is eating our
> > bandwidth and I am sending all to the trash bin now.
> >
> > --
> >  Rick Sivernell
> >  Dallas, Texas  75287
> >  972 306-2296
> >  res005ru@verizon.net
> >  Registered Linux User
>
> Wow.  You've been trying to get off this list for YEARS?  And the
> unsubscribe information has been in the headers of every email this list
> sends out.  You must feel pretty foolish about now.  BTW, it's not the
> list administrator's job to unsubscribe people.

you should join my SFOH clan
-mike

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo

[Kent Fredric]

On 7/18/07, Michael Sullivan <michael@espersunited.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 2007-07-13 at 07:16 -0500, Rick Sivernell wrote:
> >  I am trying to contact somebody in charge of gentoo. I have tried for years now to get my email address off your list, but all has failed. If someone knows this person or will send me the email address so that I may contact them, I would appreciate this. Currently this is eating our bandwidth and I am sending all to the trash bin now.
> >
> > --
> >  Rick Sivernell
> >  Dallas, Texas  75287
> >  972 306-2296
> >  res005ru@verizon.net
> >  Registered Linux User
>
> Wow.  You've been trying to get off this list for YEARS?  And the
> unsubscribe information has been in the headers of every email this list
> sends out.  You must feel pretty foolish about now.  BTW, it's not the
> list administrator's job to unsubscribe people.
> -Michael Sullivan-
>
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>

For the sake of ricks ease of seeing:

List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>
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List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@gentoo.org>
List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org>


( just in case his email client was dull and didn't show him )

( I myself never knew they were there untill you pointed this fact out. )
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