From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from <gentoo-dev+bounces-24236-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@gentoo.org>) id 1Hxk6N-0000UQ-TT for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 11 Jun 2007 13:38:36 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l5BDatpi017163; Mon, 11 Jun 2007 13:36:55 GMT Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.178]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l5BDYqkM014848 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Mon, 11 Jun 2007 13:34:54 GMT Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id p76so3637178pyb for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Mon, 11 Jun 2007 06:34:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ABophg3Hts5Zx/NsQUiC8NUxMTEoEUnrs8r/a3Pr5tXkJut3uSuQL/e+OuJ0/moSMNZcfzL4ubqk9HpwoI1LDZ5vRvBC3TzOwwqxZ6NemvRIlmJUN63lEvb2MGQEdN5lfwSB0wcIDonRvkiqDxim+kOHBCkUETl8QsqwxtizqW4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=F04E4grzMJb5NW5HnaLb1zTtvI98tOh/9xTfej1OmBTs5FvIzjmpNmIuUdRLr/6uHPeDiptyk+gvUTa0cgOgTDTQI7VrYUJ5Vf1Y8HW1kxhCW7FT8L+DQNksBZJiA22RFFDN0bjeNtWUSmbryot2ysPlooXhjJGaPO2MaLqA0Tg= Received: by 10.65.234.2 with SMTP id l2mr7393749qbr.1181568891451; Mon, 11 Jun 2007 06:34:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.251.19 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Jun 2007 06:34:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8cd1ed20706110634q149e0f06sa8412d1a88f6ccb8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 01:34:51 +1200 From: "Kent Fredric" <kentfredric@gmail.com> To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML In-Reply-To: <466D419E.1090608@fh-trier.de> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <4667A38B.7070308@gentoo.org> <f4hn26$cka$1@sea.gmane.org> <20070611021535.GE5778@seldon> <f4iffh$6ra$1@sea.gmane.org> <20070611114130.1fe1925a@snowflake> <466D3245.6020707@gentoo.org> <20070611123759.77ba497b@snowflake> <466D419E.1090608@fh-trier.de> X-Archives-Salt: a61508b1-ad85-4e60-b133-8a7ddaf79e72 X-Archives-Hash: 04d30d00281782871b57baed8f6bb9ad On 6/12/07, Alexander Gabert <a.gabert@fh-trier.de> wrote: > A Philosophy I picked up in a Politics chat room, was discuss problems & issues, not people. People in said room were repremanded for discussing others either directly or indirectly whether or not said persons were present ( this did exclude politicians & celebrities mind, who are 'public-domain' for slag-bait ) For good reason, is when either side runs out of conclusive logical arguments, they start sandbagging the person who they want to loose the argument of. This in turn creates a victim / persecutor cycle which produces pain due to the nature of personal attacks, and often results in a nasty big flame war like we keep having , where the discussion is not about any real problems, but mostly just a big mudflinging match at various people. ( I won't say I'm perfect, I've fallen victim to this myself, but the volume on gentoo ML is just rediculous to say the least ) So please, problems, not people, people :) /[=A2]{2}/ --=20 Kent ruby -e '[1, 2, 4, 7, 0, 9, 5, 8, 3, 10, 11, 6, 12, 13].each{|x| print "enNOSPicAMreil kdrtf@gma.com"[(2*x)..(2*x+1)]}' -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list