[gentoo-dev] Last rites: xfce-extra/xfce4-volumed

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: xfce-extra/xfce4-volumed

[Michał Górny]

# Michał Górny <mgorny@gentoo.org> (28 Aug 2017)
# Alike xfce4-mixer, relies on gstreamer:0.10 (gstreamer:1.0 removed
# mixer wrappers). Last commit upstream in 2014. PulseAudio users
# can switch to xfce-extra/xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin
# or xfce-extra/xfce4-volumed-pulse.
# Removal in 30 days. Bug #629212.
xfce-extra/xfce4-volumed
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Best regards,
Michał Górny

[gentoo-dev] Re: Last rites: xfce-extra/xfce4-volumed

[Duncan]

Michał Górny posted on Mon, 28 Aug 2017 20:25:54 +0200 as excerpted:

> # Michał Górny <mgorny@gentoo.org> (28 Aug 2017)
> # Alike xfce4-mixer, relies on gstreamer:0.10 (gstreamer:1.0 removed
> # mixer wrappers). Last commit upstream in 2014. PulseAudio users
> # can switch to xfce-extra/xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin
> # or xfce-extra/xfce4-volumed-pulse.
> # Removal in 30 days. Bug #629212.
> xfce-extra/xfce4-volumed

OK, you singled out pulseaudio users when you mentioned an alternative.

What about non-pulseaudio users?

Seems to me that message could be made better for them regardless of
whether there's a non-pulseaudio alternative or not.  If so, listing
it/them would of course be useful.

If there's no non-pulseaudio alternative, I'd suggest explaining why,
something like this, depending on the reason:

# Xfce now requires pulseaudio so there's no non-pulseaudio alternative
# other than switching away from xfce on upgrade.  Sorry.

Or:

# No xfce/gtk-based non-pulseaudio alternative known.  This masking
# message may be updated with alternatives should any be suggested.

Or:

# No xfce-based non-pulseaudio alternative available.  Suggested
# non-xfce alternatives include <whatever>


Meanwhile, at a minimum, usage of alsamixer in a terminal window
might be suggested.  Something like:

# In the absence of other alternatives the ncurses-based alsamixer
# from media-sound/alsa-utils may be used in a terminal window. 

I'm on kde here, but sometimes use alsamixer if kmix isn't working
(I'm on live-git-kde after all) or is "working" but I'm not getting
the expected results or I simply want a different visual presentation.

-- 
Duncan - List replies preferred.   No HTML msgs.
"Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
and if you use the program, he is your master."  Richard Stallman

[gentoo-dev] Re: Last rites: xfce-extra/xfce4-volumed

[Ulrich Mueller]

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>>>>> On Mon, 28 Aug 2017, Duncan  wrote:

> Michał Górny posted on Mon, 28 Aug 2017 20:25:54 +0200 as excerpted:
>> # Michał Górny <mgorny@gentoo.org> (28 Aug 2017)
>> # Alike xfce4-mixer, relies on gstreamer:0.10 (gstreamer:1.0 removed
>> # mixer wrappers). Last commit upstream in 2014. PulseAudio users
>> # can switch to xfce-extra/xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin
>> # or xfce-extra/xfce4-volumed-pulse.
>> # Removal in 30 days. Bug #629212.
>> xfce-extra/xfce4-volumed

> OK, you singled out pulseaudio users when you mentioned an alternative.

> What about non-pulseaudio users?

There are alternatives that seem to work well with xfce and alsa,
for example media-sound/volumeicon or mediasound/pnmixer.

Ulrich

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Last rites: xfce-extra/xfce4-volumed

[Brian Evans]

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On 08/28/2017 05:15 PM, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 28 Aug 2017, Duncan  wrote:
> 
>> Michał Górny posted on Mon, 28 Aug 2017 20:25:54 +0200 as excerpted:
>>> # Michał Górny <mgorny@gentoo.org> (28 Aug 2017)
>>> # Alike xfce4-mixer, relies on gstreamer:0.10 (gstreamer:1.0 removed
>>> # mixer wrappers). Last commit upstream in 2014. PulseAudio users
>>> # can switch to xfce-extra/xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin
>>> # or xfce-extra/xfce4-volumed-pulse.
>>> # Removal in 30 days. Bug #629212.
>>> xfce-extra/xfce4-volumed
> 
>> OK, you singled out pulseaudio users when you mentioned an alternative.
> 
>> What about non-pulseaudio users?
> 
> There are alternatives that seem to work well with xfce and alsa,
> for example media-sound/volumeicon or mediasound/pnmixer.
> 
> Ulrich
> 

There is also media-sound/tudor-volumed if you don't have a mixer with
built-in keybinds.

Brian


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