From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mxn3N-0004Ub-9r for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19:29:01 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 38E26E0806; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19:29:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-px0-f201.google.com (mail-px0-f201.google.com [209.85.216.201]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 027CBE081B for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19:28:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pxi39 with SMTP id 39so387576pxi.10 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:28:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=wrYlABgruRkgvEJLHcW+Bnx1GIE8QDDXvmbO2L9Pffo=; b=aRb63Mp+Kj2zVsiDHlQrFFeD9QlUEdy0M2mV57CRHIWAHF7RUv7kQ8cNDN0fHczt3w EjPWnYDf4Z2ILWWzEbKqyo9QyGUrX7SEv2qAK8qsEP2/VPSxjt+5jBVSJOCvD6OR8t6c RmvRcbCPN4hatt6f/gyAfwh0+T/UGE0Si7oec= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=s6hic2MIXS+AQf8K2kdsL7V6cVX+JrCiSpNVPsD7/EkS0SQq0jm+bMBP752jreat4a J8lzgzZYoENz03Xc803YrMdhsBOCmnE/Xir8E+xoPm34yfvebtPhRGgKjBw9byjyBxrX 4bhWQJCtuG5tuVwkLGLlfMLvWon0JTkA6ITV8= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: nirbheek.chauhan@gmail.com Received: by 10.115.61.16 with SMTP id o16mr13195544wak.15.1255462139514; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:28:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20091013191741.GA8178@linux1> References: <200910091957.09193.zzam@gentoo.org> <8b4c83ad0910100622u502a69bdy6a9aaca18304cd48@mail.gmail.com> <200910102230.07124.zzam@gentoo.org> <200910131823.39417.hwoarang@gentoo.org> <20091013181618.GA7940@linux1> <4AD4E951.8020606@avtomatika.com> <20091013191741.GA8178@linux1> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 00:58:59 +0530 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2533cb1932e78f21 Message-ID: <8b4c83ad0910131228j4ae1ee7dib869c76ecfb17d4f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc-0.5.1 arrived in the tree From: Nirbheek Chauhan To: Gentoo Dev Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: a98b5882-38a7-438d-ab47-46fd517ce96a X-Archives-Hash: 8b3a56f0de39db420858ce6f48897e6b On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 12:47 AM, William Hubbs wrote= : > The default is to use the old net.ethx style network scripts, which > still work as usual, so, that is why I said that I disagree about there > being a regression. =C2=A0A regression means that something worked before= , > but it doesn't now, and that is not the case if you accept the defaults. > Agreed, not a regression. [snip] > Yes, I would agree that there should be a warning about > turning off the oldnet use flag, but I don't think this warrants masking > the ebuild, unless I am missing something. =C2=A0If I am, definitely let = me > know. > If the USE-flags of an ebuild are visible to the user, it can be assumed that they are safe to use (after following the documentation and warnings if any). Which means that the maintainer needs to be even more careful w.r.t. system packages; providing adequate warnings and documentation. If there's no documentation on how to use the new network scripts; there should atleast be a big /FAT/ warning. Obviously the documentation must be updated soon as well; unless the ebuild never intends to make it to stable ;) Personally, I wouldn't even dream of adding a core package like openrc to ~arch until there was documentation about unexpected behaviour (default or not). But to each his own. --=20 ~Nirbheek Chauhan GNOME+Mozilla Team, Gentoo