From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MK5A0-0006HN-1t for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 06:43:44 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 78E98E0402; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 06:43:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pz0-f186.google.com (mail-pz0-f186.google.com [209.85.222.186]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E6D2E0402 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 06:43:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk16 with SMTP id 16so357797pzk.32 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2009 23:43:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=aCh+tDGsSW6h70McYwx0cP/F/IQ8hZCYFNXMAY8HiKg=; b=s5peIEkjDNdVXSBaPauQdxdoAoMvAthTx5JHKMQOQf7KqdCT1k/nxLPKnuMdnb9Q2w YHSYBxr3VKWL2cVxRsaDQtkhxDPNEp3L6UTWuTeR1dHj/VsxHiK2cbfWieMSIuWGoYKI zSAxp49+otYIi5l+4zWBuj25r06rLojHSS8lU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=vt8T9NWub6bggPMxBhR8hMgmwBUvmV7U77ZJqNEScDt74PPMeDeNEpN+X6UPlCI9v1 2V5GqODg3lv/xRJz6jyesVBzzpI98IZR+l8QTnEWqurR8OnWBYyjPQ+xlIbQBxInxB/F K88yGxgSAAF0JHapltPaD07mVfoTxBKCToxfU= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: nirbheek.chauhan@gmail.com Received: by 10.114.159.5 with SMTP id h5mr5318431wae.201.1245998621810; Thu, 25 Jun 2009 23:43:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A43E30E.4090100@gentoo.org> References: <200906252100.52295.wk@mailstation.de> <8b4c83ad0906251250k474d15f6vdef8f1afed8d2baf@mail.gmail.com> <4A43E30E.4090100@gentoo.org> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 12:13:41 +0530 X-Google-Sender-Auth: cda405a70f8b440a Message-ID: <8b4c83ad0906252343n5c1bbf56v37d53e039aee1b55@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] 2009 Council Elections From: Nirbheek Chauhan To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: a2eb1e1c-ec5b-4311-80b6-e8381a63c4d2 X-Archives-Hash: 0d242421a4a96141523f62ecd1883d71 On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 2:20 AM, Alistair Bush wrote: > > Sorry to rain on your parade, but with ciaranm's consistent history, > > allowing him to participate in Gentoo's discussions itself is a > > privilege of patience on the part of the Gentoo community. > > > > I would believe that recent history would show the opposite. Recent "history" does not change the nature of a person, nor does it rebuild the bridges they have burnt. >=C2=A0There seem > to be a group of developers at which the mere mention of ciaranm results > in setting them off. So you expect us to just ignore all his past problems and give him a fresh start everytime someone mentions him? Do you really expect us to not take a persons well-known history into account when dealing with them? This is at best unrealistic and at worst trollish. > Regardless of the technical merits of a solution > they seem more interested in just derailing anything that might have > anything to do with ciaramn. > What the hell does this discussion have to do with technical merits of any solution? Please don't attempt a validity by association[1]. > I realise that ciaranm has had a nasty past. =C2=A0But recently I haven't= see > anything. Having witnessed Ciaran playing nice for a while before getting back to vitriolic attacks several times before, I take all this with a record-shatteringly-massive grain of salt. I would like to see good behavior for much longer before bringing my guard down. I keep an open and forgiving mind, but not so much that my brains fall out and get eaten by zombies. 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_fallacy -- ~Nirbheek Chauhan