From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-dev+bounces-31625-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1K9F7J-0002XW-FQ for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 08:03:37 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D3DF5E03F8; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 08:03:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.187]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C4DDE03F8 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 08:03:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id u5so291302tia.10 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 01:03:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=/Csf/DZXKm+xlZx6qf2kEL+W6czIKRuoEmE9yaKZdIQ=; b=Zuts/F/sJJwqHzr55dpZ0BxRZSMNhFcVxXp8E08QDePoNxVcEk4/eOa4Cod/6XM2jS QADOduY5uvpt3M7SJW6cNVdFDnc5pxyqHQDb44pJCXgHtNsmKqyctrA/MvSDMKs3Mcjn SGw7HUBF9Qlm6/js4VYfFYGszamiWMPG/VqyA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=KLrZFdW7LeaBUi/KIXP4CJcG2fWRpugudBGjTBKTlH3PesGVT9gkyaGzE6aqog5kSU BcWJ4Aut4OfKNTWaBhi6WhsA2T3V444t3j3cZdYd29d8joIR5/CUUC7cg4yp6Z/dUSBV 9Egq2zMOjaB01AfnQNBiG5WDM7AHQ6deD/BB4= Received: by 10.110.57.6 with SMTP id f6mr1388108tia.38.1213862613734; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 01:03:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.110.17.2 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 01:03:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8b4c83ad0806190103q298c0facwd9a1153ce163d9ab@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:33:33 +0530 From: "Nirbheek Chauhan" <nirbheek.chauhan@gmail.com> To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Agenda [WAS: One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for June] In-Reply-To: <4859CDE6.1000901@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20080611070618.54E4066E24@smtp.gentoo.org> <20080611215827.GB7074@comet> <g2qjln$fji$1@ger.gmane.org> <1213540950.16905.149.camel@camobap> <20080615155052.3376fd83@googlemail.com> <1213839792.4449.7.camel@inertia.twi-31o2.org> <22b538bc0806181940n155a8093g9c407d3729052847@mail.gmail.com> <4859CDE6.1000901@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: 5f3541c7-1ac6-4180-acd4-12ac530b50ff X-Archives-Hash: e468e8902ac388dc2dee1988eeb4b0d2 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 8:39 AM, George Prowse wrote: > ++ > > It's about time someone said this and I honestly think that lots of > developers will be thinking the same. ++ I'm not a developer, but I'm a Gentoo Summer of Code student[0] so maybe my experience counts for something: I approached this package manager mess with a completely open mind. I did not see any reason why someone would behave the way people were saying the Paludis folk did. I used to idle on both #pkgcore and #paludis, and occasionally contributed in both channels[1][2]. The result however, was a personal verification[3] of what people had been telling me all along. Ciaran deliberately steers threads in a completely non-productive direction[4] for reasons completely beyond me[5]. If I didn't know better I'd think he had been hired by someone to constantly plant seeds of disharmony and chaos within Gentoo. However, one thing is for certain. There is no doubt that his tactics waste everyone's time and energy. ~Nirbheek Chauhan who is quite depressed to see all this. 0. http://tinyurl.com/4plr7c 1. http://pastebin.osuosl.org/8455 2. http://pastebin.osuosl.org/8456 3. http://pastebin.osuosl.org/7939 4. Ciaran's reply (http://tinyurl.com/5sldtc) to Brian's mail (http://tinyurl.com/5zuf7y) and my reply to it (http://tinyurl.com/5l4ddk) 5. http://tinyurl.com/6b5sfb -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: http://getfiregpg.org iEYEARECAAYFAkhaErIACgkQb1z91vbKYbYIewCeO5eYks9Ep1WsqwcGXWMrB2xR XzEAoKdhmPCeixSoDOoK/8fJ+aWm4apc =KcMj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list