From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K68vK-00038J-4l for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:50:26 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 208CAE00B9; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:50:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.185]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D13BE00B9 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:50:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id u5so755833tia.10 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:50:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=uA7xDpbdN57saXvc0rDOC3nxV377hjz5lB7+GckTrO4=; b=Ydho2A1TnnJ4Keyl/wuZ/jldHmt6QNpQA3bqR6vBxnGkqN3E0AxYrYmsFXxzRlTO0T jEuKMPD66kO9NhppTc1eY2Bm9wMIPZDlhmD5dUvpdL89cNuUawL+SkBeaubgr1INoj/3 VkQFGiBLAwkSVQYcpGhsxZuTX/RbnASFpuG5o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=S2w/v6HFlOTwKPb4jWzZ75307f3ehSSH4CaX4UaiUnnlADUA+WoOgBIench2g9A45C Afc9ZQf8yQmDWUdhAalcC4HZKKOD4mdF2JiMKePxC7X00mH1emd4N+bRyFPoas3VPgyU LKvWEXQ4Tg8sPNKGFs/ZRsvvxZurrnblNVJhM= Received: by 10.110.3.15 with SMTP id 15mr1195516tic.16.1213123822236; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:50:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.110.33.4 with HTTP; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:50:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8b4c83ad0806101150y3a425e04w1f0e29d328da23aa@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:20:22 +0530 From: "Nirbheek Chauhan" To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI-2 - Let's get it started In-Reply-To: <82502725-1590-4D5A-93FA-6E6EB12B241A@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <484EAB4F.6070608@gentoo.org> <484EAC1C.4020009@dev.gentooexperimental.org> <8b4c83ad0806100933vb06644ehcbe4b4e3d4006601@mail.gmail.com> <484EAE4A.6020902@gentoo.org> <82502725-1590-4D5A-93FA-6E6EB12B241A@gentoo.org> X-Archives-Salt: 3026889a-a672-4535-aba5-0e36080f3574 X-Archives-Hash: 5b962312e7080228ca06390e45392434 On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 11:04 PM, Fernando J. Pereda wrote: > > On 10 Jun 2008, at 18:39, Doug Goldstein wrote: >> At this point, we should really only discuss features that all 3 package >> managers have implemented. > > I'm not sure this intersection isn't empty :/ How about we define this as EAPI=0? =) Jokes aside, I agree with you. Features that all three package managers have already implemented (release or beta) are quite uninteresting. However, this will make for a more sane discussion, and will _actually_ result in an EAPI=2 getting approved, say, in the next Council meeting. I say this is better than a feature-complete EAPI=2 that stays on hold for a year because we can't collectively decide on it, results in PM-specific overlays, loud bitching about how nothing ever gets done, and results in overall wastage of energy. > > We might, however, only discuss features that all 3 package managers can > implement easily. I say this should be done in the context of EAPI=3 once we all agree on what EAPI=2 should contain (let's take it slow ;) If we start discussing EAPI=3 *now*, we _might_ get it out 6 months later[1] ;p 1. Sorry, that's how open source usually works :) -- ~Nirbheek Chauhan -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list