From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-dev+bounces-17814-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@gentoo.org>) id 1GYrVv-0001rK-9S for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 14 Oct 2006 21:57:51 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.6) with SMTP id k9ELuwMf015126; Sat, 14 Oct 2006 21:56:58 GMT Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9ELrmlS019595 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Sat, 14 Oct 2006 21:53:48 GMT Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id p46so1992122nfa for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Sat, 14 Oct 2006 14:53:48 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=QGn1ZVrNLjeUt5tZiQxCcaZr5ODFOxI0DTe8uv9an7TdjBtD9evqmjNX0ZnIGCA1puT0NtxlawKb5mhaLOv4sX/V2g/uwGtthbiF2YIKGl9r5/D3ccV7R5ZxDTOcTCwUhDkPLZvCoJdvEU/8HKhnaz+V3tGveprPSw6YAoFsQTk= Received: by 10.78.149.13 with SMTP id w13mr5645099hud; Sat, 14 Oct 2006 14:53:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.123.6 with HTTP; Sat, 14 Oct 2006 14:53:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <88830b6c0610141453r691d64c7n895963e507cf3bfc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 07:53:47 +1000 From: "Nathan Sullivan" <nathan@nightsys.net> Sender: nmsullivan@gmail.com To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Resignation In-Reply-To: <81bfc67a0610140608r101903b4q47425d8c649a1e98@mail.gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_33512_3890714.1160862827854" References: <20061007211914.GA9881@woodpecker.gentoo.org> <200610131220.06172.jhuebel@gentoo.org> <81bfc67a0610140608r101903b4q47425d8c649a1e98@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: bae77ec4a24af4d3 X-Archives-Salt: e907f741-3832-442e-811a-8172700f756d X-Archives-Hash: 5375907143ca027e79080759ccdcda52 ------=_Part_33512_3890714.1160862827854 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I could see that kinda working IMO Caleb... a president-like figure to run things, elected id say would be best, maybe 1 year terms or something, cannot be overruled but elections can be called early if some overly high percentage of council/others express concerns about the person... otherwise their word is final, see that would at least give things direction, and the person is removable but only with some kinda concensus among devs... id also think this person should be independent of groups such as the council/devrel/etc if so... just my 0.02 :) Nathan. On 10/14/06, Caleb Cushing <xenoterracide@gmail.com> wrote: > > I agree. what we're seeing is a failure of democracy. at first it > works. then people have opinions. then bickering starts. and no one > has the power to stamp there foot down and say this is our direction. > It doesn't work very well. at the least we need a president like > figure. of course I'm not against a supreme dictator as long as they > keep looking forward, and doing good. > -- > gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list > > ------=_Part_33512_3890714.1160862827854 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I could see that kinda working IMO Caleb...<br><br>a president-like figure to run things, elected id say would be best, maybe 1 year terms or something, cannot be overruled but elections can be called early if some overly high percentage of council/others express concerns about the person... otherwise their word is final, see that would at least give things direction, and the person is removable but only with some kinda concensus among devs... id also think this person should be independent of groups such as the council/devrel/etc if so... <br><br>just my 0.02 :)<br><br>Nathan.<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 10/14/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Caleb Cushing</b> <<a href="mailto:xenoterracide@gmail.com">xenoterracide@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">I agree. what we're seeing is a failure of democracy. at first it<br>works. then people have opinions. then bickering starts. and no one <br>has the power to stamp there foot down and say this is our direction.<br>It doesn't work very well. at the least we need a president like<br>figure. of course I'm not against a supreme dictator as long as they<br>keep looking forward, and doing good. <br>--<br><a href="mailto:gentoo-dev@gentoo.org">gentoo-dev@gentoo.org</a> mailing list<br><br></blockquote></div><br> ------=_Part_33512_3890714.1160862827854-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list