From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1EZ3RQ-0000yH-TT for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2005 09:37:29 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id jA79akIt004925; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 09:36:46 GMT Received: from smtp.top-hosting.cz (gw.top-hosting.cz [81.0.254.91]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jA79Z1vp010396 for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 09:35:01 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.top-hosting.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C7129E4155 for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 10:35:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp.top-hosting.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (wac [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 00801-02 for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 10:34:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from NOTORCOMP (21.217.broadband4.iol.cz [85.71.217.21]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.top-hosting.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4100DA989 for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 10:34:49 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 10:34:43 +0100 From: Jakub Moc X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <88270517.20051107103443@gentoo.org> To: Grobian Subject: Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 42 "Critical News Reporting" Round Two In-Reply-To: <20051107084104.GA14775@gentoo.org> References: <20051105005814.0de0d8ff@snowdrop.home> <436C8951.4010008@gentoo.org> <20051105173426.1ce20468@snowdrop.home> <436D32F3.7010809@gentoo.org> <20051105230709.17ecd036@snowdrop.home> <436DBFEE.4030602@gentoo.org> <20051106215635.16d8d03f@snowdrop.home> <20051107084104.GA14775@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="pgp-sha1"; boundary="----------9A19D22B3B45C650" X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new 2.3.2 (20050629) at top-hosting.cz X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.292 tagged_above=-999 required=6 tests=[AWL=0.085, BAYES_50=0.001, PRIORITY_NO_NAME=1.097, WEIRD_PORT=0.109] X-Spam-Level: * X-Archives-Salt: 8b50a079-98ce-492b-922b-d073e384d41d X-Archives-Hash: 6513069e0ad7e2c289e9294fb9899960 ------------9A19D22B3B45C650 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0D=0A7.11.2005, 9:41:04, Grobian wrote: > On Sun, Nov 06, 2005 at 09:56:35PM +0000, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: >> | Then what is the point of this GLEP? Instead, just warn people >> | through existing intrastructure, which is cheap from an engineering >> | perspective because everything is already there in place, and don't >> | think of implementing all kinds of extras just to warn a user one >> | extra time, since "trying to warn them any further becomes futile" >> | anyway. >>=20 >> The current warning levels we have are insufficient. This GLEP proposes >> a new system for warnings which will be far harder to accidentally >> ignore. There are, however, limits to how far we can reasonably go >> before we make the solution worse than the problem. > Remember that there are packages in the tree that satisfy the preemptive > requirement, since they simply die when trying to upgrade and a certain > amount of prerequisites is not met. This prevents the user from losing > data files or making them inaccesible, while at the same pointing out > what needs to be done and why, using a short message. Uhm, breaking the emerge chain in *not* an alternative to this GLEP, in no way... Leaving the rest of the upcoming rant/flame for ciaranm's pleasure. = :=3D) --=20 Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:jakub@gentoo.org GPG signature: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=3Dget&search=3D0xCEB= A3D9E Primary key fingerprint: D2D7 933C 9BA1 C95B 2C95 B30F 8717 D5FD CEBA 3D9E ... still no signature ;) ------------9A19D22B3B45C650 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (MingW32) iD8DBQFDbx+zhxfV/c66PZ4RAgQgAJ4oxDXu5cnnk0CztSTzIWp6Xu59TgCfVntU 6V95ELhWHa3DzaTZt7ftBAE= =v6iz -----END PGP MESSAGE----- ------------9A19D22B3B45C650-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list