From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BAF14158089 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2023 21:42:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EE2DA2BC194; Mon, 11 Sep 2023 21:42:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (woodpecker.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AF6E02BC032 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2023 21:42:19 +0000 (UTC) References: <7802203.lOV4Wx5bFT@kona> <20230911082243.65aa85f5@Akita> <4128737.ElGaqSPkdT@kona> <20230911084231.73dd619f@Akita> <5848191c-8708-edfe-0c69-eeced3907b0d@gmail.com> <87zg1szc23.fsf@gentoo.org> <5d96d41de2f7057b42b436783678c8c4.squirrel@ukinbox.ecrypt.net> User-agent: mu4e 1.10.6; emacs 30.0.50 From: Sam James To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: sys-fs/eudev Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2023 22:41:39 +0100 Organization: Gentoo In-reply-to: <5d96d41de2f7057b42b436783678c8c4.squirrel@ukinbox.ecrypt.net> Message-ID: <87zg1sxu88.fsf@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: b7164ee0-2fd7-4c38-856b-10b713cc4684 X-Archives-Hash: e63298a919870c1f754e6edb17558a91 "Eddie Chapman" writes: > Sam James wrote: >> >> Dale writes: >> >>> orbea wrote: >>>> On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 17:29:47 +0200 >>>> "Andreas K. Huettel" wrote: >>>> >>>>> Am Montag, 11. September 2023, 17:22:43 CEST schrieb orbea: >>>>> >>>>>> Upstream is maintained still. >>>>>> >>>>>> https://github.com/eudev-project/eudev >>>>>> >>>>> No, it's not. >>>>> >>>> Based on what? It has several commits this year and is currently >>>> working on both of my systems. Is there something specific showing why >>>> its not maintained? >>> >>> On the link above it says this: >>> >>> On 2021-08-20 Gentoo decided to abandon eudev and a new project was >>> established on 2021-09-14 by Alpine, Devuan and Gentoo contributors >>> (alphabetical order). >>> >>> It seems to have a upstream that is active but no one is maintaining it >>> on Gentoo.=C2=A0 Basically, it needs a Gentoo maintainer now.=C2=A0 It= would >>> seem given the time span that no one wants to take it.=C2=A0 >>> >>> Like others, I use it but didn't know it wasn't maintained anymore.=C2= =A0 I >>> hope someone will step up but if not, looks like we have to use udev.= =C2=A0 >> >> No, see the linked bugs. Someone has to actually make it compatible >> with the tags API which software is starting to use. >> > > It seems there is work still ongoing to that end: > https://github.com/eudev-project/eudev/issues/249 That only adds a stub - which isn't guaranteed to work correctly. > > A quick look at the bug list in the original announcement today, they > appear to almost all be bugs for Gentoo maintainers to address rather than > upstream, and one or two it's questionable if they are actually bugs. I've improved the mask message. > > I think it is a rather large stretch to claim that upstream is dead, the > evidence just doesn't show that. > > So what's the situation with the current Gentoo maintainers? Have they > disappeared? I often see on here packages being offered up for grabs. Why > hasn't there been a call to give others the opportunity to volunteer as > maintainers rather than going straight to last riting the package? Or has > that happened and I've missed it, in which case I apologise. There was a year ago or so and nothing really came out of it. But see above wrt 'tags'.