From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 26339 invoked from network); 28 Dec 2003 10:45:54 +0000 Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (128.193.0.39) by eagle.gentoo.oregonstate.edu with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP; 28 Dec 2003 10:45:54 +0000 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([128.193.0.34] helo=eagle.gentoo.org) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AaYQk-0005lQ-MF for arch-gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 10:45:54 +0000 Received: (qmail 19020 invoked by uid 50004); 28 Dec 2003 10:45:02 +0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 30565 invoked from network); 28 Dec 2003 10:45:02 +0000 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: <20031227223417.017c75e4@voyager.weeve.org> <200312281026.19457.mike@gaima.co.uk> From: Jeremy Maitin-Shepard Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 05:47:33 -0500 In-Reply-To: <200312281026.19457.mike@gaima.co.uk> (Mike Williams's message of "Sun, 28 Dec 2003 10:26:18 +0000") Message-ID: <87wu8hqkvu.fsf@jbms.ath.cx> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] suggestion: virtual/telnet X-Archives-Salt: 3c08043a-6386-4446-baf4-ffae2c45ec00 X-Archives-Hash: f82fada45d6a1c3e8e9f73cc3fecd5da Mike Williams writes: > On Sunday 28 December 2003 03:34, Jason Wever wrote: >> I don't believe our intention or goal is to proactively protect the user >> from their own possible stupidity. Telnet is still rather viable for >> things (think terminal servers) and has many applications where security >> may not be a concern. > Mostly, as an administrator/power user, telnet is an absolute must for testing > services. Although people often tend to use and think of telnet as being plain-text, bare TCP, it really is a protocol, and so it would probably be best to use the far-more-useful-for-that-purpose netcat program (net-analyzer/netcat). > The block-telnet with a virtual/telnet is a good idea. A simple 1 line reason > for the block printed when portage shows the block would make things even > better. > Yes, it's work for a dev, but if it saves a multitude of questions later isn't > it worth the effort now? Adding a block-telnet package to the system class seems like an excessive amount of trouble to inconvenience users excessively. -- Jeremy Maitin-Shepard -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list