From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9C0B5158089 for ; Sat, 16 Sep 2023 06:10:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1671B2BC041; Sat, 16 Sep 2023 06:10:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (woodpecker.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CAA612BC018 for ; Sat, 16 Sep 2023 06:10:53 +0000 (UTC) References: <7802203.lOV4Wx5bFT@kona> <92dfbb91650e4fe9c82268ccddf8b0ab.squirrel@ukinbox.ecrypt.net> <4270953.Sgy9Pd6rRy@pinacolada> <25616924cf66471fbd1075753551dffa.squirrel@ukinbox.ecrypt.net> <7B549F95-5EEA-4DD3-A046-AA6F2C7B6349@gentoo.org> <5aa46e8fd2c09e8d54c6a9ec71725529.squirrel@ukinbox.ecrypt.net> <6e35ba9b-a55b-4b36-9d79-96faa5fb1dc6@gentoo.org> <2647445b-bd37-0d70-a9a0-a9fe085235b0@gmail.com> User-agent: mu4e 1.10.6; emacs 30.0.50 From: Sam James To: Oskari Pirhonen Cc: Dale , gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org, sam@gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: sys-fs/eudev Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2023 07:09:59 +0100 Organization: Gentoo In-reply-to: Message-ID: <87v8calkba.fsf@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: f9b11c4a-6cdd-41ff-92de-30c16703e3e1 X-Archives-Hash: 03220bc75ee25471cbb6c544fd829f6b Oskari Pirhonen writes: > [[PGP Signed Part:Undecided]] > On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 03:10:51 -0500, Dale wrote: >> Andrew Ammerlaan wrote: >> > >> > And then another thing, how is it possible that so many people missed >> > the news item? They are displayed quite prominently I think, and >> > emerge will keep buggering you about it until it is marked as read. >> > Just wondering if there is something that can be improved here. >> > >> > Best regards, >> > Andrew >>=20 >>=20 >> I'm pretty good at reading the news items.=C2=A0 I seem to recall that y= ou >> see one only if it affects you, you have a package installed or >> something.=C2=A0 So, if it shows up, it is best to take notice.=C2=A0 Th= at said, I >> don't recall seeing the news item either.=C2=A0 I can't imagine me missi= ng it >> but I also can't imagine me not taking action either. After all, (eu)dev >> is a important package.=C2=A0 >>=20 >> One thing is for sure, the name is rather obvious.=C2=A0 The first word = in >> the title is eudev.=C2=A0 I have yet to figure out how I missed it.=C2= =A0 Given >> the number of people who did, could there have been a glitch and it >> didn't show for some weird reason?=C2=A0 Has someone who understands the= code >> checked to see if there was some typo that made it not show for most >> users?=C2=A0 >>=20 >> I do think this is worth looking into.=C2=A0 It just seems odd.=C2=A0 >>=20 > > It's not impossible for a news item to have bugs. > > Somewhat recently, when the hardened toolchain changes were being made, > a news item was sent out recommending an `-e @world`. I knew it was > coming because I saw the drafts of the news item here (as well as > discussion on irc), so I was surprised when I didn't see it on my > laptop on the day of. But I did see it on my work machine. > > We managed to track it down to my work machine using the hardened > profile whereas my laptop is using the hardened/selinux profile, and > Portage didn't quite catch that as being relevant for both. FTR: since then, the Portage logic got fixed but I also used it as impetus to implement a bunch of tests for the news item logic which would've caught this and a few other problems. But definitely possible this happened here. > > - Oskari > > [[End of PGP Signed Part]]