From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5FF7015803E for ; Tue, 2 Jan 2024 08:34:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 987AC2BC047; Tue, 2 Jan 2024 08:34:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (woodpecker.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 732B62BC031 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 2024 08:34:26 +0000 (UTC) References: <20240102041018.585420-1-eschwartz93@gmail.com> User-agent: mu4e 1.10.8; emacs 30.0.50 From: Sam James To: Ulrich Mueller Cc: Eli Schwartz , gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org, pr@gentoo.org, sam@gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] 2024-01-02-separate-usr-now-requires-an-initramfs: add news item Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2024 08:32:33 +0000 Organization: Gentoo In-reply-to: Message-ID: <87sf3gb0c2.fsf@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Archives-Salt: 6d4bd60d-bba1-490e-b798-544fd14689bc X-Archives-Hash: 24c93da991e71b6b55ba3b3a8a60dda1 Ulrich Mueller writes: > [[PGP Signed Part:Undecided]] >>>>>> On Tue, 02 Jan 2024, Eli Schwartz wrote: > >> +++ b/2024-01-02-separate-usr-now-requires-an-initramfs/2024-01-02-separate-usr-now-requires-an-initramfs.txt > > The short-name is rather long. GLEP 42 strongly recommends to stay below > 20 characters: > https://www.gentoo.org/glep/glep-0042.html#news-item-identities > >> +Title: Separate /usr now requires an initramfs >> +Author: Eli Schwartz >> +Content-Type: text/plain >> +Posted: 2024-01-02 >> +Revision: 1 >> +News-Item-Format: 2.0 >> +Display-If-Installed: sys-apps/baselayout[split-usr] > > This is not a valid header. (Format 2.0 doesn't have Content-Type.) > >> +In 2013, Gentoo policy determined that separate /usr without an initramfs was >> +officially no longer supported: >> + >> +- https://projects.gentoo.org/qa/policy-guide/filesystem.html#pg0202 >> +- https://gitweb.gentoo.org/data/gentoo-news.git/tree/2013/2013-09-27-initramfs-required/2013-09-27-initramfs-required.en.txt?id=a79dd69b0cca439bc0c483c9193c79e0554819d0 > > The 2013-09-27-initramfs-required news item already said: > > | Linux systems which have / and /usr on separate file systems but do not > | use an initramfs will not be supported starting on 01-Nov-2013. > | > | If you have / and /usr on separate file systems and you are not > | currently using an initramfs, you must set one up before this date. > | Otherwise, at some point on or after this date, upgrading packages > | will make your system unbootable. > > It is also in the Handbook since 2014: > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64/Installation/Kernel#Optional:_Building_an_initramfs > > What has changed that we would need another news item? The fact that we continued to support it means we had various confused users (like in the cited bug 868306). The job was never finished, with usr-ldscript remaining pervasive in the tree, and then it appearing supported - or at least not unsupported. > > Ulrich > > [[End of PGP Signed Part]]