From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-14) on finch.gentoo.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=DMARC_MISSING, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 Received: from mailout01.sul.t-online.com (mailout01.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.80]) by chiba.3jane.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95571AC6DD; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 17:18:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from fwd02.sul.t-online.de by mailout01.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 17ty0Y-0006ak-03; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 00:18:18 +0200 Received: from orion.sc (02151503627-0001@[217.84.11.226]) by fmrl02.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 17ty0T-0ZI29gC; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 00:18:13 +0200 Received: from [192.168.0.2] (helo=fnord.sc) by orion.sc with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17ty0R-00079Q-00; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 00:18:11 +0200 Received: from moritz by fnord.sc with local (Exim 4.04) id 17tyBX-00076I-00; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 00:29:39 +0200 To: "Kevyn Shortell" Cc: "Spider" , Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] License criteria for Gentoo References: <20020924215357.5aee1ef9.spider@gentoo.org> <01f401c2640d$e7006370$f32e58cf@mia> From: Moritz Schulte Date: 25 Sep 2002 00:29:39 +0200 In-Reply-To: <01f401c2640d$e7006370$f32e58cf@mia> Message-ID: <87r8fjdnsc.fsf@fnord.sc> User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Sender: 02151503627-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: gentoo-dev-admin@gentoo.org Errors-To: gentoo-dev-admin@gentoo.org X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Gentoo Linux developer list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Archives-Salt: 42041d28-8e1f-46b8-9d36-7fb9db6008d5 X-Archives-Hash: 640b212d8e34ccd5041455cdc7b04532 "Kevyn Shortell" writes: > Do a package count, then go find out which ones are GNU. You'd be > surprised, how many aren't.Then go look at the GNU web page, and see > how many packages, Didn't used to be under the GNU banner, and now > are. Seems a little like Microsoft to me. Hu? When projects decide to be part of the GNU project, the GNU project "seems a little like Microsoft"? Weird. > If RMS truly wanted to evangelize the benefits of GNU, why isn't he > trying to get more sites to have information about GNU on their > site? Give an example, I can hardly imagine what you are thinking of. > Why is he trying to change the name of every dist on the planet? s/every dist/distributions built in top of GNU + Linux/ > So why such a large push from RMS to do this? And yes it is a large > push, When RMS hunts down a mailing list for dists and mails there, > as opposed to posting an email to the people who run the dist, it is > very deliberate. Why should he mail the users? The developers decide which name a project has, not the users. And I also don't see why he is "hunting down a mailing list". > Think about it, at what point does GNU become what they were founded > to fight against? The GNU project was founded to develop a free operating software, to develop free software in general, to establish the free software movement, etc. I don't get your point. > It's like any Ford small truck, The engine and transmission is made > by Mazda. Does Mazda require Ford to call the truck a Mazda/Ford > Ranger? GNU does not "require" anyone to use GNU in their name, I don't know where you get that from. It is simply a matter of helping, of supporting and of giving credits. In this movement, or this scene, such things are very important. Ford has simply bought something from Mazda, that's why Mazda has no reason to ask Ford to use "Mazda" in the name. > No he keeps building the GNU empire and claims to be doing for the > benefit of the community. "GNU empire" seems like a contradiction to me. > So how does causing animosity and resentment benefit the community? Sorry, I cannot follow your conclusions. moritz -- moritz@duesseldorf.ccc.de - http://duesseldorf.ccc.de/~moritz/ GPG fingerprint = 3A14 3923 15BE FD57 FC06 B501 0841 2D7B 6F98 4199