From: Moritz Schulte <moritz@duesseldorf.ccc.de>
To: "Kevyn Shortell" <kevyn@mac.com>
Cc: "Spider" <spider@gentoo.org>, <gentoo-dev@gentoo.org>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] License criteria for Gentoo
Date: 25 Sep 2002 00:29:39 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r8fjdnsc.fsf@fnord.sc> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <01f401c2640d$e7006370$f32e58cf@mia>
"Kevyn Shortell" <kevyn@mac.com> writes:
> Do a package count, then go find out which ones are GNU. You'd be
> surprised, how many aren't.Then go look at the GNU web page, and see
> how many packages, Didn't used to be under the GNU banner, and now
> are. Seems a little like Microsoft to me.
Hu? When projects decide to be part of the GNU project, the GNU
project "seems a little like Microsoft"? Weird.
> If RMS truly wanted to evangelize the benefits of GNU, why isn't he
> trying to get more sites to have information about GNU on their
> site?
Give an example, I can hardly imagine what you are thinking of.
> Why is he trying to change the name of every dist on the planet?
s/every dist/distributions built in top of GNU + Linux/
> So why such a large push from RMS to do this? And yes it is a large
> push, When RMS hunts down a mailing list for dists and mails there,
> as opposed to posting an email to the people who run the dist, it is
> very deliberate.
Why should he mail the users? The developers decide which name a
project has, not the users. And I also don't see why he is "hunting
down a mailing list".
> Think about it, at what point does GNU become what they were founded
> to fight against?
The GNU project was founded to develop a free operating software, to
develop free software in general, to establish the free software
movement, etc. I don't get your point.
> It's like any Ford small truck, The engine and transmission is made
> by Mazda. Does Mazda require Ford to call the truck a Mazda/Ford
> Ranger?
GNU does not "require" anyone to use GNU in their name, I don't know
where you get that from. It is simply a matter of helping, of
supporting and of giving credits. In this movement, or this scene,
such things are very important. Ford has simply bought something from
Mazda, that's why Mazda has no reason to ask Ford to use "Mazda" in
the name.
> No he keeps building the GNU empire and claims to be doing for the
> benefit of the community.
"GNU empire" seems like a contradiction to me.
> So how does causing animosity and resentment benefit the community?
Sorry, I cannot follow your conclusions.
moritz
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Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-09-22 15:55 [gentoo-dev] License criteria for Gentoo Richard Stallman
2002-09-22 21:34 ` Mikko Moilanen
2002-09-22 21:51 ` Peter Ruskin
2002-09-24 17:05 ` Mikko Moilanen
2002-09-22 21:59 ` Evan Read
2002-09-22 22:28 ` Christian Axelsson
2002-09-23 1:21 ` mike
2002-09-23 4:00 ` Mark Bainter
2002-09-24 10:19 ` Thomas M. Beaudry
2002-09-24 10:42 ` Moritz Schulte
2002-09-24 12:24 ` Mark Bainter
2002-09-24 13:50 ` Christophe Vanfleteren
2002-09-24 14:23 ` Mark Bainter
2002-09-24 14:49 ` Moritz Schulte
2002-09-23 4:20 ` Greg Corcoran
2002-09-23 0:42 ` Mark Guertin
2002-09-23 7:25 ` Evan Read
2002-09-24 10:30 ` Thomas M. Beaudry
2002-09-24 10:49 ` Moritz Schulte
2002-09-24 11:37 ` Kevyn Shortell
2002-09-24 12:03 ` Cal Evans
2002-09-24 12:35 ` Moritz Schulte
2002-09-24 14:19 ` Mark Bainter
2002-09-24 14:49 ` Moritz Schulte
2002-09-24 15:15 ` Mark Bainter
2002-09-24 16:10 ` Moritz Schulte
2002-09-24 16:24 ` Mikko Moilanen
2018-09-25 10:03 ` Karan
2002-09-25 0:58 ` [gentoo-dev] ANN: Proposed Fix for Gentoo (GNU/)Linux Issue Drew Whittle
2002-09-25 7:08 ` [gentoo-dev] License criteria for Gentoo Henti Smith
2002-09-25 10:12 ` Moritz Schulte
2002-09-24 22:27 ` Greg Corcoran
2002-09-24 22:50 ` Kevyn Shortell
2002-09-25 5:56 ` Moritz Schulte
2002-09-25 6:33 ` Kevyn Shortell
2002-09-25 10:09 ` Moritz Schulte
2002-09-26 0:12 ` Greg Corcoran
2002-09-25 10:03 ` Giulio Eulisse
2002-09-25 8:47 ` Paul de Vrieze
2002-09-25 10:21 ` Moritz Schulte
2002-09-25 11:35 ` Paul de Vrieze
2002-09-25 11:58 ` [gentoo-dev] Proper Gentoo Name (was License criteria for Gentoo) Greg Corcoran
2002-09-25 12:12 ` Mark Bainter
2002-09-25 12:26 ` Paul de Vrieze
2002-09-25 13:04 ` Moritz Schulte
2002-09-25 13:44 ` Paul de Vrieze
2002-09-25 14:29 ` Moritz Schulte
2002-09-25 18:37 ` Paul de Vrieze
2002-09-25 14:09 ` [gentoo-dev] /usr/portage/distfiles/ name collisions Chris Bainbridge
2002-09-25 14:29 ` Bart Verwilst
2002-09-25 14:55 ` Chris Bainbridge
2002-09-25 12:53 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: Proper Gentoo Name (was License criteria for Gentoo) Moritz Schulte
2002-09-25 13:38 ` Greg Corcoran
2002-09-25 14:01 ` [gentoo-dev] " wes chow
2002-09-25 14:17 ` Moritz Schulte
2002-09-25 14:09 ` wes chow
2002-09-25 19:07 ` Paul de Vrieze
2002-09-26 1:45 ` Evan Read
2002-09-25 19:05 ` Paul de Vrieze
2002-09-25 19:35 ` Moritz Schulte
2002-09-26 7:21 ` Paul de Vrieze
2002-09-25 19:57 ` wes chow
2002-09-26 7:23 ` Paul de Vrieze
2002-09-26 14:32 ` Mark Guertin
2002-09-26 18:25 ` Paul de Vrieze
2002-09-23 7:47 ` [gentoo-dev] License criteria for Gentoo Benj
2002-09-23 13:21 ` Moritz Schulte
2002-09-24 19:53 ` Spider
2002-09-24 21:03 ` Kevyn Shortell
2002-09-24 22:29 ` Moritz Schulte [this message]
2002-09-25 0:21 ` Ryan Shaw
2002-09-25 0:29 ` Kevyn Shortell
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