From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B5F215ACFB for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2023 00:39:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BB133E09C4; Fri, 28 Apr 2023 00:39:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (woodpecker.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1D6F0E0936 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2023 00:39:41 +0000 (UTC) References: <49ce8700-6c96-9360-51cf-2a989f666752@gentoo.org> <29b2aa18-7498-ad42-757e-fdebad9fa5a5@gentoo.org> <87o7nd58by.fsf@gentoo.org> <43c7d58b-cdaf-4e0d-f333-bd5cdc80a475@gentoo.org> User-agent: mu4e 1.10.3; emacs 29.0.90 From: Sam James To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: EGO_SUM Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2023 01:38:57 +0100 In-reply-to: Message-ID: <87pm7oon5j.fsf@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: e6930406-c40f-469b-8180-f61a8b0cf985 X-Archives-Hash: 55065de15fd6f986aa48419ca52f8a7c --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Pascal J=C3=A4ger writes: > Maybe I=E2=80=99m getting this wrong, but didn=E2=80=99t=C2=A0 we switch = to shallow > checkouts for the systems repository? I remember it was a major > outcry on the mailing list. So at least for end users git keeps no > history and our repository history should not impact clone size of a > shallow copy, should it?=C2=A0 > (Try to avoid top-posting if you can, reply after the message you're replying to.) rsync copies of the tree aren't affected by this, nor are full git clones for development. > > > On Donnerstag, Apr. 27, 2023 at 14:54, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny < > mgorny@gentoo.org> wrote: > On Thu, 2023-04-27 at 09:58 +0200, Florian Schmaus wrote: >=20=20=20=20 > Disk space is cheap. >=20=20=20=20 >=20=20=20=20 > No, it's not. Gentoo supports more hardware than your average PC > with > beefy hard drive and/or possibility of installing one. Let's not > forget > that you need a ::gentoo checkout even on a system running purely > on binary packages. >=20=20=20=20 > Let's not forget that git keeps all history, so every bump of a > Go > package with large Manifest has a permanent negative impact on > clone > size. A few version bumps of Go packages can easily outweigh > complete > history of hundreds of other packages.=C2=A0 >=20=20=20=20 >=20=20=20=20 > Network traffic, while also being cheap, may be more of an > issue. >=20=20=20=20 >=20=20=20=20 > Again, you're making assumption based on living in a > well-developed area > and discriminating against users who have shoddy Internet > connectivity. >=20=20=20=20 > That said, this all was discussed in the past. I really wish you > would > humble down and try to find a solution that would work for > everyone > instead of showing arrogance and lack of concern for users > outside your > "majority" view of Gentoo. >=20=20=20=20 > -- > Best regards, > Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny >=20=20=20=20 >=20=20=20=20 --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iOUEARYKAI0WIQQlpruI3Zt2TGtVQcJzhAn1IN+RkAUCZEsVyF8UgAAAAAAuAChp c3N1ZXItZnByQG5vdGF0aW9ucy5vcGVucGdwLmZpZnRoaG9yc2VtYW4ubmV0MjVB NkJCODhERDlCNzY0QzZCNTU0MUMyNzM4NDA5RjUyMERGOTE5MA8cc2FtQGdlbnRv by5vcmcACgkQc4QJ9SDfkZDu/AD7BjeX8pgD9T4iuAcnXC9dgHqoETiYx8m5Gyb3 zXgwpYMBAKyZNPHbbEys2tgbPlNktQuiv2wYlRgDZkQmJVyopsoH =Li5z -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--