From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D5D4515800A for ; Tue, 18 Jul 2023 13:17:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3AF42E0921; Tue, 18 Jul 2023 13:17:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (woodpecker.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EAF37E0918 for ; Tue, 18 Jul 2023 13:17:01 +0000 (UTC) References: <9626e2f9-5f57-e061-b3ba-1c1fa95cb868@gentoo.org> <87sf9m9ta5.fsf@gentoo.org> <874jm1pmok.fsf@gentoo.org> <87wmyxnz5m.fsf@gentoo.org> User-agent: mu4e 1.10.4; emacs 29.0.92 From: Sam James To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Last rites: obsolete acct-* packages Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2023 14:15:42 +0100 In-reply-to: <87wmyxnz5m.fsf@gentoo.org> Message-ID: <87pm4pnyuu.fsf@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 3dff8910-dbae-42d8-82e0-4b461a57f1b0 X-Archives-Hash: b13dd9ab27558f88a3472b331ed969be --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sam James writes: > [[PGP Signed Part:Undecided]] > > Florian Schmaus writes: > >> [[PGP Signed Part:Undecided]] >> On 18/07/2023 11.56, Sam James wrote: >>> Mike Gilbert writes: >>>=20 >>>> On Mon, Jul 17, 2023 at 4:27=E2=80=AFPM Sam James wro= te: >>>>>> Haven't we been keeping these because we still need to decide on a >>>>>> policy about what to do with dead acct-*/* packages? >>>>> >>>>> Right. https://bugs.gentoo.org/781881 is still open. Flow could ping >>>>> the QA team and ask if it should be closed, given the opinion there >>>>> seems to be that there's no need to keep them, but I think it's wrong >>>>> to do this pre-empting a policy decision, given it essentially forces >>>>> the "don't keep them" path. >>>> >>>> The bug has been open for several months without comment. If a policy >>>> were going to materialize, I think it would have happened by now. >>>> >>>> Forcing the issue by sending this last rites notice seems acceptable t= o me. >>> Pinging someone rather than "forcing the issue" as a first-step is >>> customary. >> >> I am sorry, but it seems that I have to clarify something. >> >> First, I have "pinged someone." > > Ping on IRC (in #gentoo-qa, or could PM me), or again on the bug? > > Someone asked the QA team to make a decision. We haven't yet, as I'd > forgot about it. It seems wrong to then just pretend that didn't happen. > > At least try to get it resolved on that end by pinging again / asking us? Just to be super duper clear: it's fine with me if we just move on and don't keep the packages, but I think a quick /msg #gentoo-qa "hey guys, nothing seems to be happening with the bug, do you mind if we just close it?" wouldn't have gone amiss. That is _all_ I'm asking for here. And then when we get onto talk of "incentives" and "illegitimate shadow policies", I become very confused indeed. --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iOUEARYKAI0WIQQlpruI3Zt2TGtVQcJzhAn1IN+RkAUCZLaQyl8UgAAAAAAuAChp c3N1ZXItZnByQG5vdGF0aW9ucy5vcGVucGdwLmZpZnRoaG9yc2VtYW4ubmV0MjVB NkJCODhERDlCNzY0QzZCNTU0MUMyNzM4NDA5RjUyMERGOTE5MA8cc2FtQGdlbnRv by5vcmcACgkQc4QJ9SDfkZA9KAEAiJL04Gad9uxKgPoQaDuWPgqSD1H7UuDAdvJ8 fiYZXZsBAO8UosycboExxl+yWUzFdRHvSJ5AssPsVXW6Mff+dzAF =PDUU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--