Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: sys-fs/eudev

[Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>]

Alexe Stefan <stefanalexe48@gmail.com> writes:

> Must eudev be 100% compatible with all the garbage that gets shoved
> into udev to stay in ::gentoo? I don't see mdev being held to that
> standard.

Please don't top-post.

mdev is not a provider of virtual/libudev and doesn't pretend to be
via its pkgconfig file.

>
> On 9/12/23, Alexey Sokolov <alexey+gentoo@asokolov.org> wrote:
>> 11.09.2023 22:35, Sam James пишет:
>>>
>>> Alexey Sokolov <alexey+gentoo@asokolov.org> writes:
>>>
>>>> 11.09.2023 22:21, Sam James пишет:
>>>>> orbea <orbea@riseup.net> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 21:31:30 +0100
>>>>>> Sam James <sam@gentoo.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> orbea wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 17:29:47 +0200
>>>>>>>>> "Andreas K. Huettel" <dilfridge@gentoo.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Am Montag, 11. September 2023, 17:22:43 CEST schrieb orbea:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Upstream is maintained still.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/eudev-project/eudev
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No, it's not.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Based on what? It has several commits this year and is currently
>>>>>>>>> working on both of my systems. Is there something specific showing
>>>>>>>>> why its not maintained?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On the link above it says this:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2021-08-20 Gentoo decided to abandon eudev and a new project was
>>>>>>>> established on 2021-09-14 by Alpine, Devuan and Gentoo contributors
>>>>>>>> (alphabetical order).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It seems to have a upstream that is active but no one is
>>>>>>>> maintaining it on Gentoo.  Basically, it needs a Gentoo maintainer
>>>>>>>> now.  It would seem given the time span that no one wants to take
>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Like others, I use it but didn't know it wasn't maintained anymore.
>>>>>>>>    I hope someone will step up but if not, looks like we have to use
>>>>>>>> udev.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, see the linked bugs. Someone has to actually make it compatible
>>>>>>> with the tags API which software is starting to use.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think its only a matter of time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://github.com/eudev-project/eudev/pull/253
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll apply the patch and test the builds if it helps, but I don't know
>>>>>> about testing the runtime functionality of libgudev.
>>>>> Someone has to then bother reviewing it, merging it, releasing it,
>>>>> and
>>>>> ideally updating eudev for other stuff like this.
>>>>
>>>> Of course. Just like any other PR to any other project :) What's your
>>>> point?
>>>
>>> I don't know what you mean. My point is none of that has been happening.
>>>
>>
>> I see, ok. I would agree with you, however, the author of that PR is a
>> member of eudev org, so I wouldn't say it's dead just yet.
>>
>>>>
>>>>> Also note that the PR is a hack rather than a full implementation
>>>>> of the functionality anyway, which may lead to runtime misbehaviour.
>>>>
>>>> And that's fine for programs which don't make use of the new API.
>>>>
>>>
>>> and? Someone has to actually check that?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Alexey "DarthGandalf" Sokolov
>>
>>
>>