Re: [gentoo-dev] Spam (was Re: Hey SEXY)

[jsykari@cs191238.pp.htv.fi]

Mark Bainter <mark-gt@cymry.org> writes:
> Alan [alan@ufies.org] wrote:
>> Or filter the list through spamassassin before it goes out to mailman (or
>> something like that).
>
>                     Close the list      Filter the lists
> False Positives          No                  Yes
> 100% effective          Yes                  No
>
> Hrm...choice seems clear to me.  Filtering spam on a
> mailing list is a bad idea.  It's one thing for an 
> individual user to decide an acceptable level of risk
> for false positives, it's quite another to choose that 
> for an entire list.  Just my two cents.

How about making a new list, gentoo-dev-spam, and sending the filtered
mail to that address? Those who want to avoid false positives can
freely subscribe to that list.

This might seem ridiculous but it's not as ridiculous as doing nothing
and letting the mailing list get cluttered by spam. How much spam is
enough to make the list closed? 10 messages per day? 100 per day?

Better even, put the address "gentoo-dev-spam@gentoo.org" in the front
page of www.gentoo.org.  That would further raise the signal/noise
ratio of gentoo-dev, which is now, IMHO, rather much plagued by
messages which would rather belong to gentoo-newbie or
gentoo-user. (Or forums.gentoo.org)

To be a bit more realistic, a bit more realistic solution is to close
the lists.

Distributing spam on the mailing lists is increasingly hurting the
gentoo community by hindering communication. To not close the mailing
lists would be a sign of weakness and inability to make
decisions. Personal mail filters should not - and could not - be the
solution, because not everybody has the possibility, resources or
willingness to install SpamAssassin or similar.

Antti, fed up with spam