From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NnO3n-0007RH-2V for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 03:18:43 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 89012E0ECF; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 03:18:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from newton.gmurray.org.uk (newton.gmurray.org.uk [81.2.114.237]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D482DE0B02 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 03:18:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from newton.gmurray.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by newton.gmurray.org.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o253IR2e029479 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 03:18:27 GMT X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.0.0 newton.gmurray.org.uk o253IR2e029479 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmurray.org.uk; s=in200703; t=1267759108; bh=m31qojPQoUwKFoxJbz/qWGlFNtFXjjf7Vr9dB1qEMns=; l=674; h=From:To:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=nnZ1di/+Stnk60jCEN93Pkc+ezQls+uERIVEpwKKXEHmrGlxqlxIfm4dqrXBEYmUa L4fQuZvAnEdPRIT3nlTZOOZWrQTIkDxMNpcQ2arjWRQ8niaTA8xQN86Mg19lo5HpxW JO0YsLkZm4ezqkvti5qM4bWHdtaA46GrREr3XTyo= X-BATV: Sendmail BATV Filter v0.4.0 newton o253IR2e029479 Received: (from graham@localhost) by newton.gmurray.org.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o253IRfk029478; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 03:18:27 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: newton.gmurray.org.uk: graham set sender to graham@gmurray.org.uk using -f From: Graham Murray To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Remove cups from default profile to solve circular deps References: <4B9049A3.5020805@gmail.com> <201003050957.22890.mail@patrick-nagel.net> <4B906E7D.7010003@gentoo.org> Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 03:18:27 +0000 In-Reply-To: <4B906E7D.7010003@gentoo.org> (Richard Freeman's message of "Thu, 04 Mar 2010 21:37:49 -0500") Message-ID: <877hprpibg.fsf@newton.gmurray.org.uk> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.93 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at newton X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Archives-Salt: ca218765-dc44-4509-bae1-4416625fffc6 X-Archives-Hash: 4312cd2cd8a984db74221bdd92bf3786 Richard Freeman writes: > I think that is separate from the circular dependency issue. As long > as we have an unresolved circular dependency I think cups should be > off the list. However, I'd be the first to agree that this is a > short-term solution. > > The problem is that we only have two long-term solutions so far: > > 1. A smarter package manager that can work through these dependencies > automatically. > > 2. Splitting packages like poppler that have these issues. Is there not a third, maybe obvious, solution to circular dependencies on initial install? 3. Include one or both of the packages in the stage tarball.