From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B2EE61581FB for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2024 21:43:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 24A01E2A02; Thu, 29 Aug 2024 21:43:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (woodpecker.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D5574E29AD for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2024 21:43:05 +0000 (UTC) From: Sam James To: Andreas Sturmlechner Cc: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] News Item: KDE Plasma 6.1.4 and Gear 24.05.2 Upgrade In-Reply-To: <3584006.iIbC2pHGDl@tuxbrain> (Andreas Sturmlechner's message of "Thu, 29 Aug 2024 23:08:36 +0200") Organization: Gentoo References: <5933809.lOV4Wx5bFT@tuxbook> <875y8si1k0.fsf@gentoo.org> <383bb994-da96-d2a6-3c8a-c3ffaec16258@gentoo.org> <3584006.iIbC2pHGDl@tuxbrain> Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2024 22:43:01 +0100 Message-ID: <874j73f1ju.fsf@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Archives-Salt: 597254f3-befb-47af-8613-fc524ebeeff8 X-Archives-Hash: 9a7e89e7ffd85e741652945d769be585 Andreas Sturmlechner writes: > Title: KDE Plasma 6.1.4 and Gear 24.05.2 Upgrade > Author: Andreas Sturmlechner > Posted: 2024-08-31 > Revision: 1 > News-Item-Format: 2.0 > Display-If-Installed: kde-plasma/plasma-workspace:5 > > Reasons > ======= > > KDE Plasma 5 has reached end of life and is no longer supported by Gentoo. > Qt5 upstream OSS support ended on 2020-12-08, and LTS releases - even with > considerable effort by KDE community's backports on top - only go so far. > It is therefore required for all users to upgrade to KDE Plasma 6[1]. > > At the same time, KDE Gear 24.05.2 is provided with most applications ported > over to KDE Frameworks 6. As long as KF5-based applications are being shipped > with the KDE Gear bundle, and other non-KDE Qt5-based applications still > common in ::gentoo repository, it is advised *not* to disable USE="qt5". > > > Changes > ======= > > Not many - much like Qt6, this is mostly an evolution of the existing > codebase, no disruptive feat. > > Plasma Wayland support has come a long way and therefore KDE developers have > decided to make it the default login session for Plasma 6, even if some > known papercuts[2] remain. For users affected too much by those, switching > to the still existing X11 session is as easy as selecting it in the display > manager of choice. Disabling USE="wayland" is *not* changing this default, > it will yield no dependency savings, and we advise against doing so. It does > not affect users' X11 sessions. > > In Gentoo: Let's rephrase this a bit. > - arm 32-bit support is discontinued "The 32-bit ~arm/arm keyword was inconsistent across KDE Plasma, KDE Frameworks, and KDE Gear, and has been dropped." > - x86 will not see stabilisation of Plasma 6 and KF6-based packages "Like for arm, but to a lesser extent, the situation for x86 was inconsistent and test failures often blocked stabliization." This makes it sound less final and avoids the potential for misunderstandings. > > > User Action Required > ==================== > > For users of a plasma profile[3], no specific upgrade steps are necessary, > although some precautionary measures are advised before and during upgrade: > > - Switch to a standard (Breeze or Oxygen) theme > - Unmerge kde-misc/latte-dock, it is unfit for Plasma 6 (and masked already) s/Unmerge/Depclean/, but weren't there others we should do as well? Or maybe they're all handled? Maybe we can recommend: emerge -pev @world --backtrack=0 and emerge --deselecting any KDE-adjacent software which says "no ebuilds available". > - Cleanup sets and @world from any SLOT or version pinning of KDE packages > - If possible, perform the upgrade not inside a running Plasma session > > Necessary USE flag changes were already made in plasma profile, therefore > only users of other profiles should set USE="kf6compat qt6" globally[4]. > > Once the packages become available on your arch, it should be as simple as > update @world: > > emerge -aquvUD @world > -q and -v? (yes, this does work in Portage, but it looks odd...) > > [1] https://kde.org/plasma-desktop/ > [2] https://community.kde.org/Plasma/Wayland_Known_Significant_Issues > [3] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/KDE#Profile > [4] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki//etc/portage/package.use