From: Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: banning "AI"-backed (LLM/GPT/whatever) contributions to Gentoo
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2024 16:29:56 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8734td98fv.fsf@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8f080af1-5d67-45ac-94a1-6bb072bfb410@gentoo.org> (Marek Szuba's message of "Tue, 27 Feb 2024 16:11:15 +0000")
Marek Szuba <marecki@gentoo.org> writes:
> On 2024-02-27 14:45, Michał Górny wrote:
>
>> In my opinion, at this point the only reasonable course of action
>> would be to safely ban "AI"-backed contribution entirely. In other
>> words, explicitly forbid people from using ChatGPT, Bard, GitHub
>> Copilot, and so on, to create ebuilds, code, documentation, messages,
>> bug reports and so on for use in Gentoo.
>
> I very much support this idea, for all the three reasons quoted.
>
>> 2. Quality concerns. LLMs are really great at generating plausibly
>> looking bullshit. I suppose they can provide good assistance if you
>> are careful enough, but we can't really rely on all our contributors
>> being aware of the risks.
>
> https://arxiv.org/abs/2211.03622
>
>> 3. Ethical concerns.
>
> ...yeah. Seeing as we failed to condemn the Russian invasion of
> Ukraine in 2022, I would probably avoid quoting this as a reason for
> banning LLM-generated contributions. Even though I do, as mentioned
> above, very much agree with this point.
That's not a technical topic and we had an extended discussion about
what to do in -core, which included the risks of making life difficult
for Russian developers and contributors.
I don't think that's a helpful intervention here, sorry.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-02-27 16:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-02-27 14:45 [gentoo-dev] RFC: banning "AI"-backed (LLM/GPT/whatever) contributions to Gentoo Michał Górny
2024-02-27 15:10 ` Arsen Arsenović
2024-02-27 15:21 ` Kenton Groombridge
2024-02-27 15:31 ` Alex Boag-Munroe
2024-02-27 16:11 ` Marek Szuba
2024-02-27 16:29 ` Sam James [this message]
2024-02-27 16:48 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2024-02-27 17:02 ` Ionen Wolkens
2024-02-27 17:41 ` Rich Freeman
2024-02-27 18:07 ` Ulrich Mueller
2024-02-27 18:27 ` Kenton Groombridge
2024-02-27 17:46 ` Matthias Maier
2024-02-27 17:50 ` Roy Bamford
2024-02-27 18:40 ` Peter Böhm
2024-02-27 18:04 ` Sam James
2024-03-09 14:57 ` Michał Górny
2024-02-27 19:17 ` Eli Schwartz
2024-02-28 3:05 ` Oskari Pirhonen
2024-02-28 3:12 ` Michał Górny
2024-02-28 10:08 ` Ulrich Mueller
2024-02-28 11:06 ` Matt Jolly
2024-02-28 20:20 ` Eli Schwartz
2024-03-01 7:06 ` Sam James
2024-03-09 15:00 ` Michał Górny
2024-02-28 13:09 ` Michał Górny
2024-02-28 10:34 ` David Seifert
2024-02-28 18:50 ` Arthur Zamarin
2024-02-28 19:26 ` Rich Freeman
2024-03-01 6:33 ` Zoltan Puskas
2024-03-05 6:12 ` Robin H. Johnson
2024-03-06 6:53 ` Oskari Pirhonen
2024-03-08 3:59 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2024-03-09 15:04 ` Michał Górny
2024-03-09 21:13 ` Duncan
2024-03-10 1:53 ` Eli Schwartz
2024-03-06 13:53 ` [gentoo-dev] " martin-kokos
2024-03-08 7:09 ` Fco. Javier Felix Belmonte
2024-03-21 15:25 ` Michał Górny
2024-04-15 19:50 ` Jérôme Carretero
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