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From: "Arsen Arsenović" <arsen@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] last rites (kinda, long masked): sys-apps/opentmpfiles
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2023 12:58:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86bke1caqc.fsf@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAENw6g4wToAeWxRoEm203AtCq28P_DJYk2MrxrEvGBiQK65Bew@mail.gmail.com>

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Alexe Stefan <stefanalexe48@gmail.com> writes:

> One is written in shell, the other is written in c.(no problems here)

Not that implementation language matters.

> One is not part of systemd, the other is.

Both work fine without systemd, but the systemd implementation also
happens not to be unmaintained and happens to be more complete.

> How are they identical.

The last rites message does not say that opentmpfiles and
systemd-tmpfiles are identical.  That'd do a disservice to the actually
complete, unmaintained, and (currently) non-CVE-affected implementation
in systemd.

> I use this on my raspi server, works fine.

'WOMM' is a fairly terrible measure.

> Gentoo really became a systemd distro, further restricting choice by
> the day.

[ignoring this nonsensical statement, notice put here for clarity]


Gentoo devs aren't obliged to maintain software you like to use.
systemd-utils[tmpfiles] works on all Gentoo systems, including
non-systemd ones.  Until that changes (which is unlikely), I doubt there
will be much interest in maintaining a fork from inside Gentoo.

Please take up opentmpfiles maintenance.  You have
https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/message/689954cc7fd55402dc4c82aa0ac70efb
to address, and probably some other issues.  See
https://github.com/OpenRC/opentmpfiles/issues/19 for context.

The message above implies that a rewrite in C is necessary.

This should be rather easy.  The systemd implementation is only ~4k LoC
(excluding shared code), so I imagine that a complete reimplementation
should be far less than 10k.  Since this is fairly elementary stuff, it
should be possible to finish in a weekends time.

Submit a PR to re-add opentmpfiles after you're done.

Looking forward to reviewing your contributions upstream.  Have a lovely
day :-)
-- 
Arsen Arsenović

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-09-17 11:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-16 22:47 [gentoo-dev] last rites (kinda, long masked): sys-apps/opentmpfiles Andreas K. Huettel
2023-09-17  5:26 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] " Alexe Stefan
2023-09-17  8:37   ` David Seifert
2023-09-17  8:47     ` Alexe Stefan
2023-09-17 10:58   ` Arsen Arsenović [this message]
2023-09-17 11:15     ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-09-17 13:05     ` orbea
2023-09-17 17:28       ` Alexe Stefan
2023-09-17 20:49         ` Michael Orlitzky
2023-09-17 11:53   ` Michael Orlitzky
2023-09-17 13:32     ` Marc Joliet
2023-09-17 17:10       ` Marc Joliet
2023-09-17 17:25       ` Michael Orlitzky
2023-09-17 17:53         ` orbea
2023-09-20 13:58 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ulrich Mueller

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