From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B515F158041 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2024 04:23:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B81852BC022; Tue, 27 Feb 2024 04:23:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (mail.gentoo.org [IPv6:2001:470:ea4a:1:5054:ff:fec7:86e4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 41E5B2BC014 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2024 04:23:45 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <83074f9d-49f8-4b83-bc02-840635434a78@gentoo.org> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2024 05:23:39 +0100 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] 2024-02-26-debianutils-drops-installkernel-dep: add news item Content-Language: en-US, nl-NL To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: <20240226223913.26dhxekedfqucrdx@logos.localdomain> From: Andrew Nowa Ammerlaan Autocrypt: addr=andrewammerlaan@gentoo.org; keydata= xsBNBF3n3cUBCAC6uoDZ0XzaO29l8AzUblXQ5rxZI7nbGEnfFqjEQCK3oEXxsDa9Ez1myx3M ir53Vyx64Iz1Bq/TOS/PttgguPpiLggCpTTD2vavp5SwFmg272+P8bUJVJF2mMRm0OR/YPiA B5dNfcoLqKIj+ZMOtrZ72B7agkUn+iDt8lB2fZ7XhfZMyQBXICYSe+EiJJmTuvIhHhOn7GCT VjpwGYCCSw3F/j2VPmJPUftz6Nb4oWaiaJ6ZwroS2ECYqZKeo+dXCsmB/LZWYqIFSSPILTLZ f1Hh/TklnQqkNVO+nY/B/o9RVYAhWJbl/F4VaKlRXemE+pDZIALlK8kt0IFU6liUOHHlABEB AAHNLUFuZHJldyBBbW1lcmxhYW4gPGFuZHJld2FtbWVybGFhbkBnZW50b28ub3JnPsLAlwQT AQgAQQIbAwULCQgHAgYVCgkICwIEFgIDAQIeAQIXgAIZARYhBAb/U0G9gF2wvH0HpqGfY2zU 7bzRBQJlNiYEBQkJL3u/AAoJEKGfY2zU7bzRUeYH/33eX3sOyo3++xcqR/KrTNodkgWAknPe Jl8BiYdIn7zEgif5Fz6Uu8IzjfDpPd8uR82sbV2uQWarrpNmnPrAACKuAuYN9vnuLZ+9UWz6 ybGqMm545+qsFtUTTzdveMPEWr2nr+payfxthK6OdgZU5ZseLxDS9KYmBeAC7RVnIWMVDn9n opmuFK5iGxIUvIbYIl/xrk2HPAIsh1ScLBy4z7r8PFmWT1XGC0Na6PJyEG2KiQXwjKxwsljQ 6mKEAkKOkbifD0CSO8eg56ccf8WYo0s/+SiYjBjI9SEhbgZbiUbpTSw3eT/g4V2SKX1CYs1z 717XjlMKzqBNaw+AzWgrk0TOwE0EXefdxQEIAJtT7965MCxOTic3mISWSI6Z3mFFYmUkxQt8 gBVsTAezOrkd6xEt/HnFPZqeGnbSiV8gMFPKv4RkaXxWfQYKm+9/12qJNEFdVop1rpe77lU2 h0elVXuWiWsNmwqEhQcs1mq/awzO81Lyob9Miai2qNQ9MBikmFAp9c4n8C42kPLVrTKPmemI 95gZ1Y830W+udYg1jNqLF2ucMDUX1M1U2EfazWI0pNCwPoKnOqAJS+VQbyxtJ1IlE3+9sk+6 hjlTTF+RDYGv5hUoWkmcXDM2X/Cl0XB4XYOWr17Wa6+WXC+80/iLxxolMqM4KfuIR5OizbqK 2CRAJY7la7TSv1lTD1cAEQEAAcLAfAQYAQgAJgIbDBYhBAb/U0G9gF2wvH0HpqGfY2zU7bzR BQJlNiHABQkJL3d7AAoJEKGfY2zU7bzRjDwH/1fp/87km2YYVgrfP1aWLjAA/TwcEVycRJQQ S9Q6xuzgD5AYhjzBSONoN46cwf+gla6xndY0lCawsZN7whtJ/DhqSZEfL0HgHkJ6T8FCXexf n1s6XmIAxqIrMmfsuOkAPLJIHzAAGzQX8DXcRSj1cIDUpa1Uy7ncVvI4EzJBRtJVJXIbl+53 NGauXU8ZuprPYkMSPuW3eHATFc0F5DhmlFUXh+HYYK+2QTO73TENMhngkrYcw63je5bRp/+f 72XFKlf1gXHK1ivg8nYueyUfrxZTBGKagusOiQeOao2I1uYcHoFhPYJrQWePMyZiYyB6PR0K DR4B/Ulo3v0eBXaaYzo= Organization: Gentoo Linux In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 5b4adead-c735-4a5a-9530-a3567627a4ab X-Archives-Hash: 9196dbb8db1967ef765f122772233cca On 27/02/2024 03:28, Oskari Pirhonen wrote: > On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 22:39:13 +0000, Lucio Sauer wrote: >> On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 06:13:32PM +0100, Andrew Nowa Ammerlaan wrote: >>> Previously sys-kernel/installkernel was implicitly installed on many systems >>> via a dependency in sys-apps/debianutils. This dependency was toggled >>> by the "installkernel" USE flag, and enabled by default. >>> >>> sys-apps/debianutils was in turn pulled in by app-misc/ca-certificates, >>> an essential package installed on many systems. However, this >>> dependency was recently removed. >> >> In my opinion, the last sentence reads as if app-misc/ca-certificates was >> recently removed. I suggest rewording the passage as follows: >> >> Until recently, sys-apps/debianutils was in turn pulled in by >> app-misc/ca-certificates, an essential package installed on many systems. >> This is no longer the case. >> >>> As a result many users may find that ... >> > > Agreed. I was confused for a second reading it since it was the first > I'd heard of ca-certificates being removed before I realized that was > not the case at all. > > - Oskari Yes I see how this wording can be confusing. Fixed locally and in the GitHub PR, Thanks. Best regards, Andrew