From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1M6tDq-0002Uu-23 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 20 May 2009 21:21:10 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8D68CE0525; Wed, 20 May 2009 21:21:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from IMPaqm4.telefonica.net (impaqm4.telefonica.net [213.4.129.19]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 144CEE0525 for ; Wed, 20 May 2009 21:21:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from IMPmailhost4.adm.correo ([10.20.102.125]) by IMPaqm4.telefonica.net with bizsmtp id ttQu1b0292iL0W23QxBagD; Wed, 20 May 2009 23:11:34 +0200 Received: from jesgue.homelinux.org ([78.136.66.163]) by IMPmailhost4.adm.correo with BIZ IMP id txBZ1b0063XLmEe1kxBajY; Wed, 20 May 2009 23:11:34 +0200 X-TE-authinfo: authemail="i92guboj.terra.es" |auth_email="i92guboj@terra.es" X-TE-AcuTerraCos: auth_cuTerraCos="cosuitera01" Received: from 192.168.0.10 (SquirrelMail authenticated user i92guboj) by jesgue.homelinux.org with HTTP; Wed, 20 May 2009 23:11:38 +0200 Message-ID: <82fa0925911f6ff1ca9934d027fb39d3.squirrel@jesgue.homelinux.org> In-Reply-To: <4A146F0B.7000108@allenjb.me.uk> References: <4A146F0B.7000108@allenjb.me.uk> Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 23:11:38 +0200 Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo Support Everywhere From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jes=FAs_Guerrero?= To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.5.2 [SVN] Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 59470c97-c671-4f51-9b62-61b0c790aae3 X-Archives-Hash: 697008a7a4286a541a6dacc00448ab67 On Wed, May 20, 2009 22:58, AllenJB wrote: > Jes=FAs Guerrero wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> >> This is a request for comments on a new project, >> namely "Gentoo Support Everywhere". >> >> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/gse/ >> >> >> The web page doesn't really explain all the background >> needed to understand why would anyone want to start such a project. >> However this forum thread might be more >> clarifying: >> >> >> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-762914.html >> >> >> The initial aim is to provide some support to these lost souls >> that wander around the LQ forums, and to create a Gentoo subforum at L= Q >> like many other distros do. However, eventually the support might be >> extended to other places if there's a need and enough human power to d= o >> so. >> >> Comments welcome, and thanks for reading. >> >> > > After reading everything so far, basically as far as I can see this > project exists solely to provide a capacity for an "official" presence = on > LinuxQuestions (and perhaps other sites later). Of the current > membership it appears to be taking up no time. > > However, is an entire standalone project for this necessary? Could this > not just be coordinated as a task of userrel (or perhaps forum moderato= rs, > as suggested earlier)? What purpose does having a standalone project ha= ve > over doing this within an existing project? I did this just because it was suggested in the forum thread, and it seemed like the way to go. Other ideas might be better for this so I am ready to hear them of course. > Specifically in relation to the LQ sub-forum, will the members of the > project be moderating that sub-forum? Or is their task purely to help t= here > and moderation is left to the LQ moderators? We will not be part of the LQ team and we will not be moderating anything there. Easy put, all they want is us to say "hey, we are here and we like that there's a gentoo forum at LQ", some kind of official pronunciation, and a project seemed official enough for me (in fact, more than they ask for). > How will you ensure that an official presence is maintained in the long > run? While it's all well and good to say that the current members are > spending their time there anyway, but what happens in 3+ years time whe= n > they move on. As I see it Gentoo is left with a (semi-)official sub-for= um > that it created but no longer supports - How will this reflect on Gento= o > as a whole? That's another task for a project, isn't it?, to guarantee its own continuity when members leave. If not, the project dies and the LQ support would die as well. That can happen in any project, but if there's a project it's less likely that the idea will die starved forgotten in some dead thread into a forum or something like that. It's my view anyway. > Will you be intending to recruit some sort of "official helpers" (who > are probably already active on these forums)? Would they become members= of > the project (and thus Gentoo Staffers/Developers)? What privileges woul= d > these project members have within the Gentoo Development sphere? LQ do not require any big support on our side. Whoever want to help is welcome to help, but really the amount of gentoo traffic there is not that big, and we can just redirect them to our forum when needed. There's no need for a big staff or something like that, as I already said, even one person would be ok and that's all they ask for. It's not like having a second forum there, just some basic attention for those that dive lost in the net for some reason. --=20 Jes=FAs Guerrero