[gentoo-dev] [PATCH] profiles/base: add app-alternatives/{awk,bzip2,gzip,sh,tar} to @system

[gentoo-dev] [PATCH] profiles/base: add app-alternatives/{awk,bzip2,gzip,sh,tar} to @system

[Sam James]

- Before this commit, nothing pulls in app-alternatives/sh, so we're relying on
  app-shells/bash handling /bin/sh as an orphaned symlink (which is one of the big
  things we're trying to move away from).

- Add in the others (app-alternatives/{awk,bzip2,gzip,tar}) to allow setup
  via /etc/portage/package.use without adding these to @world manually,
  this also lays the ground work for at some point removing specific implementations
  in the future (after making sure ebuilds which need specific impls. depend on them).

- Note that there's two exceptions:
  1. app-alternaitves/yacc

     No need to explicitly add into @system, because we previously had virtual/yacc
     so it'll get pulled in by ebuild dependencies anyway.

  2. app-alternatives/lex

     We never had virtual/lex before and packages very often explicitly
     depend on sys-devel/flex. But this isn't a big deal given it's very unlikely
     that a user wants to try modify lex yet and reflex is still very new as an
     option in Gentoo.

     That is, as time goes on and we test more to ensure it works with any lex,
     it'll get pulled in as various ebuilds get updated anyway.

Bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/886017
Bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/886247
Signed-off-by: Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>
---
 profiles/base/packages | 9 ++++++---
 1 file changed, 6 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)

diff --git a/profiles/base/packages b/profiles/base/packages
index e0cee163af993..533a67c70e05c 100644
--- a/profiles/base/packages
+++ b/profiles/base/packages
@@ -1,4 +1,4 @@
-# Copyright 1999-2020 Gentoo Authors
+# Copyright 1999-2022 Gentoo Authors
 # Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License, v2
 
 # Gentoo Base Profile
@@ -24,9 +24,12 @@
 # of the minimum set of packages needed for any Gentoo based system.
 
 *>=sys-apps/baselayout-2
+*app-alternatives/awk
+*app-alternatives/bzip2
+*app-alternatives/gzip
+*app-alternatives/sh
+*app-alternatives/tar
 *app-admin/eselect
-*app-arch/bzip2
-*app-arch/gzip
 *app-arch/tar
 *app-arch/xz-utils
 *app-shells/bash:0
-- 
2.39.0

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] profiles/base: add app-alternatives/{awk,bzip2,gzip,sh,tar} to @system

[Sam James]

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> On 28 Dec 2022, at 16:04, Sam James <sam@gentoo.org> wrote:
> 
> - Before this commit, nothing pulls in app-alternatives/sh, so we're relying on
>  app-shells/bash handling /bin/sh as an orphaned symlink (which is one of the big
>  things we're trying to move away from).
> 
> - Add in the others (app-alternatives/{awk,bzip2,gzip,tar}) to allow setup
>  via /etc/portage/package.use without adding these to @world manually,
>  this also lays the ground work for at some point removing specific implementations
>  in the future (after making sure ebuilds which need specific impls. depend on them).
> 
> - Note that there's two exceptions:
>  1. app-alternaitves/yacc
> 
>     No need to explicitly add into @system, because we previously had virtual/yacc
>     so it'll get pulled in by ebuild dependencies anyway.
> 
>  2. app-alternatives/lex
> 
>     We never had virtual/lex before and packages very often explicitly
>     depend on sys-devel/flex. But this isn't a big deal given it's very unlikely
>     that a user wants to try modify lex yet and reflex is still very new as an
>     option in Gentoo.
> 
>     That is, as time goes on and we test more to ensure it works with any lex,
>     it'll get pulled in as various ebuilds get updated anyway.
> 
> Bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/886017
> Bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/886247
> Signed-off-by: Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>
> ---
> profiles/base/packages | 9 ++++++---
> 1 file changed, 6 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> 

FWIW, I'd like to push this today to avoid users having to deal
with the migration "twice" if they have eselect-sh installed,
given app-alternatives/* got stabled yesterday/early today.




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Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] profiles/base: add app-alternatives/{awk,bzip2,gzip,sh,tar} to @system

[Sam James]

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> On 28 Dec 2022, at 16:27, Sam James <sam@gentoo.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On 28 Dec 2022, at 16:04, Sam James <sam@gentoo.org> wrote:
>> 
>> - Before this commit, nothing pulls in app-alternatives/sh, so we're relying on
>> app-shells/bash handling /bin/sh as an orphaned symlink (which is one of the big
>> things we're trying to move away from).
>> 
>> - Add in the others (app-alternatives/{awk,bzip2,gzip,tar}) to allow setup
>> via /etc/portage/package.use without adding these to @world manually,
>> this also lays the ground work for at some point removing specific implementations
>> in the future (after making sure ebuilds which need specific impls. depend on them).
>> 
>> - Note that there's two exceptions:
>> 1. app-alternaitves/yacc
>> 
>>    No need to explicitly add into @system, because we previously had virtual/yacc
>>    so it'll get pulled in by ebuild dependencies anyway.
>> 
>> 2. app-alternatives/lex
>> 
>>    We never had virtual/lex before and packages very often explicitly
>>    depend on sys-devel/flex. But this isn't a big deal given it's very unlikely
>>    that a user wants to try modify lex yet and reflex is still very new as an
>>    option in Gentoo.
>> 
>>    That is, as time goes on and we test more to ensure it works with any lex,
>>    it'll get pulled in as various ebuilds get updated anyway.
>> 
>> Bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/886017
>> Bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/886247
>> Signed-off-by: Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>
>> ---
>> profiles/base/packages | 9 ++++++---
>> 1 file changed, 6 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>> 
> 
> FWIW, I'd like to push this today to avoid users having to deal
> with the migration "twice" if they have eselect-sh installed,
> given app-alternatives/* got stabled yesterday/early today.

After discussion in #gentoo-pms, I'm going to push this
with only the +s (i.e. keep gzip + bzip2 in @system for now),
as PMS at least for gzip is clear it wants GNU gzip available,
and it says "bzip2" must be as well.

I'd like to revisit this another time and see about changing that
if appropriate, but that's tangential to the reason I'm trying to do
this quickly (minimising impact for users).

I'll open a bug so we don't forget to do that revisiting.


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Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] profiles/base: add app-alternatives/{awk,bzip2,gzip,sh,tar} to @system

[Sam James]

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> On 28 Dec 2022, at 18:52, Sam James <sam@gentoo.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On 28 Dec 2022, at 16:27, Sam James <sam@gentoo.org> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 28 Dec 2022, at 16:04, Sam James <sam@gentoo.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> - Before this commit, nothing pulls in app-alternatives/sh, so we're relying on
>>> app-shells/bash handling /bin/sh as an orphaned symlink (which is one of the big
>>> things we're trying to move away from).
>>> 
>>> - Add in the others (app-alternatives/{awk,bzip2,gzip,tar}) to allow setup
>>> via /etc/portage/package.use without adding these to @world manually,
>>> this also lays the ground work for at some point removing specific implementations
>>> in the future (after making sure ebuilds which need specific impls. depend on them).
>>> 
>>> - Note that there's two exceptions:
>>> 1. app-alternaitves/yacc
>>> 
>>>   No need to explicitly add into @system, because we previously had virtual/yacc
>>>   so it'll get pulled in by ebuild dependencies anyway.
>>> 
>>> 2. app-alternatives/lex
>>> 
>>>   We never had virtual/lex before and packages very often explicitly
>>>   depend on sys-devel/flex. But this isn't a big deal given it's very unlikely
>>>   that a user wants to try modify lex yet and reflex is still very new as an
>>>   option in Gentoo.
>>> 
>>>   That is, as time goes on and we test more to ensure it works with any lex,
>>>   it'll get pulled in as various ebuilds get updated anyway.
>>> 
>>> Bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/886017
>>> Bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/886247
>>> Signed-off-by: Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>
>>> ---
>>> profiles/base/packages | 9 ++++++---
>>> 1 file changed, 6 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>>> 
>> 
>> FWIW, I'd like to push this today to avoid users having to deal
>> with the migration "twice" if they have eselect-sh installed,
>> given app-alternatives/* got stabled yesterday/early today.
> 
> After discussion in #gentoo-pms, I'm going to push this
> with only the +s (i.e. keep gzip + bzip2 in @system for now),
> as PMS at least for gzip is clear it wants GNU gzip available,
> and it says "bzip2" must be as well.
> 
> I'd like to revisit this another time and see about changing that
> if appropriate, but that's tangential to the reason I'm trying to do
> this quickly (minimising impact for users).
> 
> I'll open a bug so we don't forget to do that revisiting.
> 

https://bugs.gentoo.org/888777


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