From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 83ECE138334 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2019 16:48:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CC164E0924; Tue, 29 Oct 2019 16:48:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (woodpecker.gentoo.org [IPv6:2001:470:ea4a:1:5054:ff:fec7:86e4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 82D3FE0856 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2019 16:48:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pomiot (c134-66.icpnet.pl [85.221.134.66]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mgorny) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1707F34C345; Tue, 29 Oct 2019 16:48:18 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <7dc26dccaca7ab647c656c448ffa6a67875e2a03.camel@gentoo.org> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 2/3] virtual/cargo: drop virtual From: =?UTF-8?Q?Micha=C5=82_G=C3=B3rny?= To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2019 17:48:14 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20191028153440.GA15356@whubbs1.dev.av1.gaikai.org> References: <20191025220340.2715-3-gyakovlev@gentoo.org> <20191026165918.104a631e@katipo2.lan> <4f83359a01c27e3c4afeb6b69a127cccb43b59ad.camel@gentoo.org> <20191026223555.GA16818@linux1.home> <30114cca-2851-4c22-31f6-575eb851ac88@veremit.xyz> <20191026235511.GB16818@linux1.home> <20191027203647.2b1b10ed@katipo2.lan> <20191027170502.GA19730@linux1.home> <20191028101817.19b43ed9@katipo2.lan> <20191028153440.GA15356@whubbs1.dev.av1.gaikai.org> Organization: Gentoo Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha512"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-thICibhXr3S71YUxAPBU" User-Agent: Evolution 3.32.4 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Archives-Salt: f5f2fff7-584a-4a9c-baf6-770b103e86a6 X-Archives-Hash: 1ef8597e9070b628fceb69b2e99dbd29 --=-thICibhXr3S71YUxAPBU Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2019-10-28 at 10:34 -0500, William Hubbs wrote: > On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 10:18:17AM +1300, Kent Fredric wrote: > > On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 12:05:02 -0500 > > William Hubbs wrote: > >=20 > > > If a build dep of something changes, the correct response with > > > --with-bdeps=3Dy is to rebuild everything that depends on the changed= dep. > >=20 > > Unfortunately, my learned experience of portage is the "correct > > response" is not something portage wants to do on its own without hand > > holding. >=20 > One thing I've noticed is you say things that portage might do without > giving any specifics. >=20 > Let's go ahead and do the change and file bugs against portage if there > are issues. >=20 The whole point of PMS/EAPI is that we can rely on package managers behaving reasonably for any input. Any package managers, in any version. You seem to be suggesting going in the opposite direction of making newest Portage version handle bad input. Using old version? Tough luck. Using another package manager? Tough luck. Not fitting in narrow space of solutions currently hacked around? Tough luck. --=20 Best regards, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny --=-thICibhXr3S71YUxAPBU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGTBAABCgB9FiEEx2qEUJQJjSjMiybFY5ra4jKeJA4FAl24bU9fFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldEM3 NkE4NDUwOTQwOThEMjhDQzhCMjZDNTYzOUFEQUUyMzI5RTI0MEUACgkQY5ra4jKe JA6JwwgAqAWjjpBeWkBEYlHRIfMtIi8sYCWnqAhJxLXnyWef1DEqlaNEYySDeMpQ PuBZIeSyS6rr6A33sI5ihWZCImY1LSfZdE9ElRwiinPafsx9JfcnuxFKsg6Rs6H7 RLYQJpulufuvT9nHQheZvwB8rAa49QrTQAVAs8rXSR4eG4yROCvK6kSxMExrGdo7 g14F/B81UK6LaKt2i3fp9Vbd0buEllp1EkYV6IVtGQ4WKDQ0DSrytSjMRdTpYyTL F8+yo2KAUePNW8+aZR/rV3Nmtm4qqg9YL0hswHcJCEB03j/uiWqjvh0GpRfQPa5K j3uvmY41NbZ4zSdqPbnw65A+u1HljQ== =F40Y -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-thICibhXr3S71YUxAPBU--