From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9C7D813997D for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 10:47:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3C518E0829; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 10:47:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B705DE0825 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 10:47:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 4eba-2e94-4119-fbac-3080-83b5-07d0-2001.dyn.estpak.ee (4eba-2e94-4119-fbac-3080-83b5-07d0-2001.dyn.estpak.ee [IPv6:2001:7d0:83b5:3080:fbac:4119:2e94:4eba]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: leio) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6981F34CE6E for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 10:47:18 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <7b0a4f20cb73bbbd7acb3e1efd7fe9f541ccd2cf.camel@gentoo.org> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Why adding python3_8 to Gentoo sucks? From: Mart Raudsepp To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2019 12:47:12 +0200 In-Reply-To: <4798502.u5CIKBo2SD@t490> References: <4167401.OMHBhdFZHi@t490> <4798502.u5CIKBo2SD@t490> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha512"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-q009WQO6UDuJidGJLiI9" User-Agent: Evolution 3.32.4 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Archives-Salt: 78fcaee3-1fdd-434d-8ef5-9885455b53e1 X-Archives-Hash: 6e5e397bafc34b2385dd29471143aabb --=-q009WQO6UDuJidGJLiI9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =C3=9Chel kenal p=C3=A4eval, R, 15.11.2019 kell 13:20, kirjutas Alexey 'Ale= xxy' Shvetsov: > =D0=92 =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D1=8C=D0=BC=D0=B5 =D0=BE=D1=82 =D0=BF=D1=8F=D1= =82=D0=BD=D0=B8=D1=86=D0=B0, 15 =D0=BD=D0=BE=D1=8F=D0=B1=D1=80=D1=8F 2019 = =D0=B3. 11:45:32 MSK =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=B7=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=B0=D1=82= =D0=B5=D0=BB=D1=8C > Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny=20 > =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BB: > > On Fri, 2019-11-15 at 11:41 +0300, Alexey 'Alexxy' Shvetsov wrote: > > > I think problem is more global: > > > * many python3_6 packages dont have python3_7 keywords, because > > > its > > > maintainers dont bother about it. So if you want to switch to > > > python3_7 > > > you > > > still need manualy add python3_7 use for many packages (that > > > actualy work > > > without problems > > > * we need policy for python packages that force enablement of new > > > python > > > version on existing packages. > >=20 > > Policy makes little sense if there's no way to enforce it. > >=20 > > If you tested some package on py3.7 and depgraph, just add it > > there. >=20 > Some people dont like it =3DD And some arches (doesnt matter if i have > such hw=20 > and tested on it) People mostly don't like it when you throw unrelated changes on top of that, under the guise of just python target addition, especially when they are also broken changes and involve a revbump without maintainers involvement (just PYTHON_TARGETS addition doesn't). Or if it actually doesn't work with the added python targets. --=-q009WQO6UDuJidGJLiI9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQKTBAABCgB9FiEEUdZn9pOq0mlNjRvdEKbJ+k9JlgYFAl3OgjBfFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldDUx RDY2N0Y2OTNBQUQyNjk0RDhEMUJERDEwQTZDOUZBNEY0OTk2MDYACgkQEKbJ+k9J lgaVWA//SlsYZa/rYxrXTIsjyxFfPY7rtg6rEhoAlunMEOKYgyv1qKpANHu0nZ6I hVL6o2jH2RYz9i5YMQqb8f8mSd4kXXx7LyDx7KD7a3hqg9WBP60vDTqovaxmYJ9H mA+bxEIfe1IZ7Om1VmpMh+NQnWvjxnP+A8vM5Q7RpP0c2nxwXFBXe2gYOQjcI4IO ktKoKkMb9prbkENal6EyOqQ0Qw2zPetSyZX9lZcQ4yPV+JEVMVttt149QPLHaau3 mIQhIJjb2G4wSwaUggF0oXNr08kyEUSjBLD9NiQ200cnu+t+g3WHt9ny8ziv5QlP dpttNYALiznmnRvgea0XfL3lR+bksV65ybwC35NcToELpRWdSFIJ3EsC/fhrVFJB eTirl3deJZzWMt/pSW2rR4bLpskZzJMdG+t8GsKFNcz+tDmdl/AZ9pX3Sr7qNUPG lN6BMRKrJdqbhVW/Jd3fJv5lMnv1MXNte6v44QaFgCHgSk5wTuctk+yWTtsmR7zK TvOvgsJarC0DfIjS3TlaHmIus3V2wXZMBvVi4EH4auV/ynrJcpXXCXzyJgrPoYQZ 0jGesyi1xalZLe9NvllgZMf2PNLePbyPtrkWHys60BNYSFx7lFl5K4hxcMGQtyKQ 1WVA3i5td4LcJc5og6QKwNrFYjY6DbUHYG8JOL/iTSOkm1jFNrw= =rWv6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-q009WQO6UDuJidGJLiI9--