[gentoo-dev] Last rites: media-fonts/symbola

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: media-fonts/symbola

[Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn]

# Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn <chithanh@gentoo.org> (2020-03-29)
# Old releases gone from upstream, new releases use overly restrictive
# license. For ancient scripts and symbols, use media-fonts/quivira instead.
# For emojis and pictographs, use media-fonts/noto-emoji instead.
# Masked for removal in 30 days, bug #715226
media-fonts/symbola

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: media-fonts/symbola

[Alessandro Barbieri]

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Version 10.23 is here
https://web.archive.org/web/20180129230141/http://users.teilar.gr/~g1951d/Symbola.zip

Il Dom 29 Mar 2020, 23:20 Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn <chithanh@gentoo.org>
ha scritto:

> # Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn <chithanh@gentoo.org> (2020-03-29)
> # Old releases gone from upstream, new releases use overly restrictive
> # license. For ancient scripts and symbols, use media-fonts/quivira
> instead.
> # For emojis and pictographs, use media-fonts/noto-emoji instead.
> # Masked for removal in 30 days, bug #715226
> media-fonts/symbola
>
>

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: media-fonts/symbola

[Ulrich Mueller]

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>>>>> On Tue, 31 Mar 2020, Alessandro Barbieri wrote:

> Version 10.23 is here
> https://web.archive.org/web/20180129230141/http://users.teilar.gr/~g1951d/Symbola.zip

Actually, that zipball contains version 10.24, which is under the
restrictive license already:

$ fc-query -f '%{fontversion}' Symbola.ttf | awk '{ print $1/65536 }'
10.24

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: media-fonts/symbola

[James Cloos]

>>>>> "UM" == Ulrich Mueller <ulm@gentoo.org> writes:

>>>>> On Tue, 31 Mar 2020, Alessandro Barbieri wrote:
>> Version 10.23 is here
>> https://web.archive.org/web/20180129230141/http://users.teilar.gr/~g1951d/Symbola.zip

UM> Actually, that zipball contains version 10.24, which is under the
UM> restrictive license already:

UM> $ fc-query -f '%{fontversion}' Symbola.ttf | awk '{ print $1/65536 }'
UM> 10.24

The only license i can see in that zip is the line in the pdf (which
also says 10.24) that they are 'free for any use'.

If 10.24 is in wayback, 10.23 probably is as well.

The last usable version would be a useful find.

-JimC
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: media-fonts/symbola

[Ulrich Mueller]

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>>>>> On Tue, 31 Mar 2020, James Cloos wrote:

> The only license i can see in that zip is the line in the pdf (which
> also says 10.24) that they are 'free for any use'.

Ah, I hadn't seen that one. I stand corrected then.

> If 10.24 is in wayback, 10.23 probably is as well.

> The last usable version would be a useful find.

I've sent an e-mail message upstream, asking for confirmation that 10.24
can be used, copied, modified, and/or distributed freely.

Ulrich

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: media-fonts/symbola

[James Cloos]

>>>>> "UM" == Ulrich Mueller <ulm@gentoo.org> writes:

UM> I've sent an e-mail message upstream, asking for confirmation that 10.24
UM> can be used, copied, modified, and/or distributed freely.

cool.  i hope useful info results.

-JimC
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: media-fonts/symbola

[Ulrich Mueller]

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>>>>> On Tue, 31 Mar 2020, Ulrich Mueller wrote:

> I've sent an e-mail message upstream, asking for confirmation that 10.24
> can be used, copied, modified, and/or distributed freely.

This is the answer from upstream (posted here with permission):

| The license on https://dn-works.com/ufas/ is the only license ever
| issued for UFAS software; it was first posted on my old site two years
| ago.
|
| Pre-license versions of UFAS were accompanied by the “In lieu of a
| license” statement: ‘free for any use’.
|
| That “In lieu of a license” statement is now meaningless.
|
| Any further clarification, interpretation or fall back to some ‘free
| for any use’ versions will constitute a new license; I will not do
| this.

Basically, this means that we cannot assume that the "free for any use"
versions are redistributable, at least not if we want to err on the safe
side.

This makes symbola-7.17 from 2014 the last free version, which was
distributable under the following terms:
"Fonts in this site are offered free for any use; they may be installed,
embedded, opened, edited, modified, regenerated, posted, packaged and
redistributed."
https://web.archive.org/web/20141027122717/http://users.teilar.gr/~g1951d/

So, removal of the package seems to be the only option that makes sense,
unless we would downgrade to that old version.

Ulrich

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: media-fonts/symbola

[James Cloos]

>>>>> "UM" == Ulrich Mueller <ulm@gentoo.org> writes:

UM> So, removal of the package seems to be the only option that makes sense,
UM> unless we would downgrade to that old version.

Agreed.  Cest la vie.

-JimC
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