From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EF441158099 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2023 22:57:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CDFDD2BC036; Thu, 30 Nov 2023 22:57:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-4317.proton.ch (mail-4317.proton.ch [185.70.43.17]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 841B82BC015 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2023 22:57:11 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=asokolov.org; s=protonmail; t=1701385029; x=1701644229; bh=zyaiahxOESlUxPjOgQsrPUrlQ5VEpV2ywZKBBIfcxNw=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID:BIMI-Selector; b=ihpFy2bApkau219ftBoMyLnZ+DMBGdcRDRfs301OmIkP/ZwjH+M7ZCwUWUCx5/SaU XLL44KPzfrPZYdb6dtyh+JMGx91WjtFrQsUDJQwXRWyK8bF80FIOn4D7Ldvf7DT0qF vgC4gOMscyGNZ7+AaShE8gx7nBBKO3LUvb/9/kZcAUPtaeYxuvBM2ScZUPX9Qvfa2b HkMg6lF/uMrv2mwFPfgGKzppaXIYuGBasjJ5OvIMkfDU3fXCaF7Fv2iAnceFoUIVkw /H3nCUoN/YJ/E2ahd2U+KIdYA0OP08/iT/jX/V5UWhCAExZWHlQKNiQpsWiUlsGO11 O/iCtrdbYOjHA== Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2023 22:57:03 +0000 To: "Andreas K. Huettel" , gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Alexey Sokolov Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Update on 23.0 profiles Message-ID: <7a370642-2fc3-4c47-b8cd-750b9e31f102@asokolov.org> In-Reply-To: <5356416.usQuhbGJ8B@kona> References: <854069906.0ifERbkFSE@noumea> <5356416.usQuhbGJ8B@kona> Feedback-ID: 91776987:user:proton Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: ccdbe975-faa4-4b9f-ac96-2daddb9204e2 X-Archives-Hash: 459469b1d9cc562a27526ebfa31bcbc7 30.11.2023 12:27, Andreas K. Huettel =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1=82: >> 1. The [4]/[5] probably should list full domain name rather than g.o > Yes, but the wiki does not allow full links into itself. Will be fixed > in the final news item. > >> 2. According to 23.0_update_table, my non-systemd >> default/linux/amd64/17.1/desktop/plasma should now be >> default/linux/amd64/23.0/split-usr/desktop/plasma. > Correct. > >> But that name looks >> like merged-usr is now considered "better" than split-usr, as it has to >> be specifically mentioned in the profile name. > I'd prefer "more standard", "more common", "more usual" ... > > It'll definitely soon be the configuration where software is (globally) > more tested, independent of what Gentoo does. (if that is not already the > case now...) > >> Therefore I probably should migrate to merged-usr. > You can migrate after the profile upgrade, but you don't have to. > No hurry. > >> But the only instruction how to do that >> assumes systemd. > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Merge-usr Thanks, I was only following links in the news item. > Doesn't mention systemd anywhere. I'll update this page a bit > mentioning the new naming scheme in 23.0, and link it in the news item. It kinda does. Because there's no non-systemd merged-usr plasma profile=20 in 17. Only in 23. So, I cannot migrate to merged-usr before switch to 23. Perhaps mention in the news item (or in the profiles table) that "after=20 migrating to 23 profile you gain an option to migrate to merged-usr if=20 you wish"? > >> And there's no plasma profile with merged-usr but >> without systemd anyway... except that there is: >> default/linux/amd64/23.0/desktop/plasma, it's just not mentioned in the >> table. > It's fairly simple: > * In 17.x, every systemd split-usr profile has a corresponding merged-usr= profile > * In 23.0, every split-usr profile has a corresponding merged-usr profile > > Cheers -a > > > -- > PD Dr. Andreas K. Huettel > Institute for Experimental and Applied Physics > University of Regensburg > 93040 Regensburg > Germany > > tel. +49 151 241 67748 (mobile) > tel. +49 941 943 1618 (office) > e-mail andreas.huettel@ur.de > https://www.akhuettel.de/ > https://www.akhuettel.de/group/ > >