* [gentoo-dev] how to become a package maintainer
@ 2009-10-24 8:42 Robert Welz
2009-10-24 12:44 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Robert Welz @ 2009-10-24 8:42 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-dev
I am a gentoo user and software developer for a quite a little while.
I found out that I have some spare time and I like to prepare myself to
become a package maintainer.
Are there any links that provide volunteers with the neccessary know how
of how to maintain a project? I have some money to buy a dedicated
machine, preferrably an AMD 64. Projects could be something in C++
combined with networking or PHP/Perl stuff.
Just in case I decide not to volunteer for private reasons these papers
may be beneficial for others, too.
Robert
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* [gentoo-dev] Re: how to become a package maintainer
2009-10-24 8:42 [gentoo-dev] how to become a package maintainer Robert Welz
@ 2009-10-24 12:44 ` Duncan
2009-10-24 19:43 ` Robert Welz
0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Duncan @ 2009-10-24 12:44 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-dev
Robert Welz posted on Sat, 24 Oct 2009 10:42:48 +0200 as excerpted:
> I am a gentoo user and software developer for a quite a little while. I
> found out that I have some spare time and I like to prepare myself to
> become a package maintainer.
>
> Are there any links that provide volunteers with the neccessary know how
> of how to maintain a project? I have some money to buy a dedicated
> machine, preferrably an AMD 64. Projects could be something in C++
> combined with networking or PHP/Perl stuff.
>
> Just in case I decide not to volunteer for private reasons these papers
> may be beneficial for others, too.
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml
That's the Gentoo developer handbook, which is a good place to get a feel
for what's involved at that level. Note that there's both the formal
Gentoo dev political process documented and Gentoo technology (ebuilds,
eclasses, metadata, common mistakes, etc) guides.
Generally, the idea is to start on something small and work with the
current devs. Once they know you, the rest more or less comes naturally
over time. Know that there are many who ultimately don't make /that/ big
a commitment, but who have time to help with the smaller stuff that's the
first steps toward full developership anyway.
The bug-day Saturdays are a great way to get started. Or choose an area
(Gentoo project) you're interested in, hang out here and/or on the IRC
dev channel and/or the the individual project lists and/or channels,
follow the bugs for that project, help comeup with and test patches, etc.
Many of the projects have testing overlays where stuff that's not ready
for the main tree is worked on. Java has a big one, as does KDE, both
with a lot of help from non-(gentoo-)dev project testers, many of which
have commit rights to they project overlays. There's also the
experimental projects, or projects that started that way, that are headed
toward merging into the Gentoo mainstream now. Gentoo-prefix, devoted to
making it possible to install Gentoo packages in a user's home dir or the
like, on Linux or other platforms, is a big one that's headed toward
merge at this point.
Another way to start if you have specific applications you are interested
in is with proxy maintainership if a package is in the tree, or the
Sunrise overlay, for packages not yet in the tree. A proxy maintained
package has a non-(gentoo-)dev doing much or all of the real work, bug
fixing, etc, working closely with a full Gentoo dev (or project/herd if
it's herd maintained) doing the final commits to the tree but often
little else, at least once the relationship has been established. The
Sunrise overlay is for packages not yet in the tree, but that have
various Gentoo community users maintaining them. There's a few Gentoo
devs that work with them, helping them get the packages into full Gentoo
shape, so ultimately, if a dev finds the package useful, they can bring
it into the main Gentoo tree where it may continue to be proxy maintained
by the same community user. Of course, there's more packages than devs
to maintain them, so not all packages ultimately make it into the tree,
but Sunrise is there for them as long as there's someone in the community
interested in doing the maintaining at that level.
The various arch teams have arch-testers (ATs) as well. These guys help
the devs on the arch teams test packages for keyword stabilization, etc.
Don't forget the Gentoo Documentation Documentation project as well.
They could certainly use some help from someone willing to learn the way
Gentoo handles its docs and get their hands dirty helping to maintain
them. There's always documentation updates that could be done! =:^)
Many, probably most Gentoo devs come in thru one of these paths, starting
out working with a project in an overlay or with a proxy maintained or
sunrise package, or as an AT. Other quite active users at that level are
content to stay active at that level without ever becoming full Gentoo
devs for whatever reason (time, politics, whatever). Either way, they
can rest well, knowing they're filling a vital role in the Gentoo
community, and thru it, the larger free/libre and open source software
community.
--
Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs.
"Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman
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* Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: how to become a package maintainer
2009-10-24 12:44 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
@ 2009-10-24 19:43 ` Robert Welz
0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Robert Welz @ 2009-10-24 19:43 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-dev
Am 24.10.2009 um 14:44 schrieb Duncan:
> Robert Welz posted on Sat, 24 Oct 2009 10:42:48 +0200 as excerpted:
>
>> I am a gentoo user and software developer for a quite a little
>> while. I
>> found out that I have some spare time and I like to prepare myself to
>> become a package maintainer.
>>
>> Are there any links that provide volunteers with the neccessary
>> know how
>> of how to maintain a project? I have some money to buy a dedicated
>> machine, preferrably an AMD 64. Projects could be something in C++
>> combined with networking or PHP/Perl stuff.
>>
>> Just in case I decide not to volunteer for private reasons these
>> papers
>> may be beneficial for others, too.
>
> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml
>
> That's the Gentoo developer handbook, which is a good place to get a
> feel
> for what's involved at that level. Note that there's both the formal
> Gentoo dev political process documented and Gentoo technology
> (ebuilds,
> eclasses, metadata, common mistakes, etc) guides.
>
> Generally, the idea is to start on something small and work with the
> current devs. Once they know you, the rest more or less comes
> naturally
> over time. Know that there are many who ultimately don't make /
> that/ big
> a commitment, but who have time to help with the smaller stuff
> that's the
> first steps toward full developership anyway.
>
> The bug-day Saturdays are a great way to get started. Or choose an
> area
> (Gentoo project) you're interested in, hang out here and/or on the IRC
> dev channel and/or the the individual project lists and/or channels,
> follow the bugs for that project, help comeup with and test patches,
> etc.
>
> Many of the projects have testing overlays where stuff that's not
> ready
> for the main tree is worked on. Java has a big one, as does KDE, both
> with a lot of help from non-(gentoo-)dev project testers, many of
> which
> have commit rights to they project overlays. There's also the
> experimental projects, or projects that started that way, that are
> headed
> toward merging into the Gentoo mainstream now. Gentoo-prefix,
> devoted to
> making it possible to install Gentoo packages in a user's home dir
> or the
> like, on Linux or other platforms, is a big one that's headed toward
> merge at this point.
>
> Another way to start if you have specific applications you are
> interested
> in is with proxy maintainership if a package is in the tree, or the
> Sunrise overlay, for packages not yet in the tree. A proxy maintained
> package has a non-(gentoo-)dev doing much or all of the real work, bug
> fixing, etc, working closely with a full Gentoo dev (or project/herd
> if
> it's herd maintained) doing the final commits to the tree but often
> little else, at least once the relationship has been established. The
> Sunrise overlay is for packages not yet in the tree, but that have
> various Gentoo community users maintaining them. There's a few Gentoo
> devs that work with them, helping them get the packages into full
> Gentoo
> shape, so ultimately, if a dev finds the package useful, they can
> bring
> it into the main Gentoo tree where it may continue to be proxy
> maintained
> by the same community user. Of course, there's more packages than
> devs
> to maintain them, so not all packages ultimately make it into the
> tree,
> but Sunrise is there for them as long as there's someone in the
> community
> interested in doing the maintaining at that level.
>
> The various arch teams have arch-testers (ATs) as well. These guys
> help
> the devs on the arch teams test packages for keyword stabilization,
> etc.
>
> Don't forget the Gentoo Documentation Documentation project as well.
> They could certainly use some help from someone willing to learn the
> way
> Gentoo handles its docs and get their hands dirty helping to maintain
> them. There's always documentation updates that could be done! =:^)
>
> Many, probably most Gentoo devs come in thru one of these paths,
> starting
> out working with a project in an overlay or with a proxy maintained or
> sunrise package, or as an AT. Other quite active users at that
> level are
> content to stay active at that level without ever becoming full Gentoo
> devs for whatever reason (time, politics, whatever). Either way, they
> can rest well, knowing they're filling a vital role in the Gentoo
> community, and thru it, the larger free/libre and open source software
> community.
>
> --
> Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs.
> "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
> and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman
Thank you very much for the explanation. It is a very very helpful
introduction. I will start work now and when winter is over, lets see if
I have found a project which fits to me and my work experience.
At the moment I work for a Company in Mannheim which does a Linux and C
++
based server which is very intelligent and once configured quite slick.
My own preferences, which started as a hobby during studies to become a
Mathematc/Physics teacher is web server with a centralized email
system but
redundant accounting. LDAP was intergrated after a complete study,
Postgres
is my favourite database. I don't like MySQL (but I don't hate it).
I am medium expert in WxWidgets, becourse I started writing C++ software
after reading a lot about C++, STL. My favourite computersystems are
my MacPro
and my 2 Linux server, one hardend gentoo and one vhost. I think I get
a little
tux@home Mini ITX for development and I am looking forward too see you
again here
once I finished with my training.
regards,
Robert
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