RE: [gentoo-dev] man fails under tcsh

RE: [gentoo-dev] man fails under tcsh

[Crowfoot, Norman (CCI-Atlanta)]

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yup, problem disappears if PAGER is defined under csh/tcsh

never had to do that one before . . . .

-----Original Message-----
From: gentoo-dev-admin@cvs.gentoo.org
[mailto:gentoo-dev-admin@cvs.gentoo.org]On Behalf Of Crowfoot, Norman
(CCI-Atlanta)
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2001 6:19 PM
To: gentoo-dev@cvs.gentoo.org
Subject: RE: [gentoo-dev] man fails under tcsh


What Gentoo Linux are you running?  PAGER is a env setting that each
user should customize, but in RC6, it is set in /etc/env.d/00basic.


Greetings,
  MS

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Oh, I'm running a fresh-built rc6-10.  I didn't know this bit
about /etc/env.d/00basic.  Man's still defaulting to what's in
/etc/man.conf

				-- Norm

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RE: [gentoo-dev] man fails under tcsh

[Crowfoot, Norman (CCI-Atlanta)]

What Gentoo Linux are you running?  PAGER is a env setting that each
user should customize, but in RC6, it is set in /etc/env.d/00basic.


Greetings,
  MS

-----------------

Oh, I'm running a fresh-built rc6-10.  I didn't know this bit
about /etc/env.d/00basic.  Man's still defaulting to what's in
/etc/man.conf

				-- Norm

RE: [gentoo-dev] man fails under tcsh

[Crowfoot, Norman (CCI-Atlanta)]

Man fails under csh/tcsh due to lack of PAGER setting in /etc/man.conf

Standard man ebuild forces a pre-built /etc/man.conf with PAGER left
blank.  This confuses csh/tcsh when parsing the internally-constructed
shell command, since an null string appears after the last "|" in the
command string.

The man problem under tcsh is the lack of definition for a "pager."  The
answer is to define the PAGER option in /etc/man.conf.  And the reason
the PAGER line is not filled in is the /etc/man.conf is overwritten by
/usr/portage/sys-apps/man/files/man.conf at the last minute during the
process!  In other words, all the world of building the conf in man is
blown out by the ebuild ....  The fix?  Comment out the install:

	#doins ${FILESDIR}/man.conf

and use the man.conf file that man creates.  

Other option is to edit man.conf to 

	PAGER	 less -is

or equivalent.


-----Original Message-----
From: Tom von Schwerdtner [mailto:tvon@etria.org]
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 2:59 PM
To: gentoo-dev@cvs.gentoo.org
Cc: Crowfoot, Norman (CCI-Atlanta)
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] man fails under tcsh


> man breaks when the login shell is csh or tcsh . . . 

can you be more specific?  man works fine for me.

Also, there seems to be a tcsh bug in which it tries to parse LS_COLORS
or 
somethign related.  Attempting to login to bash and then invoke tcsh
fails 
with "unknown colorls variable: 'do'" (off the top of my head).  I dont 
know much about this, but whomever is maintaining the tcsh ebuild may
want 
to look deeper.

-T

RE: [gentoo-dev] man fails under tcsh

[Martin Schlemmer]

On Fri, 2001-09-28 at 14:24, Crowfoot, Norman (CCI-Atlanta) wrote:
> Man fails under csh/tcsh due to lack of PAGER setting in /etc/man.conf
> 
> Standard man ebuild forces a pre-built /etc/man.conf with PAGER left
> blank.  This confuses csh/tcsh when parsing the internally-constructed
> shell command, since an null string appears after the last "|" in the
> command string.
> 
> The man problem under tcsh is the lack of definition for a "pager."  The
> answer is to define the PAGER option in /etc/man.conf.  And the reason
> the PAGER line is not filled in is the /etc/man.conf is overwritten by
> /usr/portage/sys-apps/man/files/man.conf at the last minute during the
> process!  In other words, all the world of building the conf in man is
> blown out by the ebuild ....  The fix?  Comment out the install:
> 
> 	#doins ${FILESDIR}/man.conf
> 
> and use the man.conf file that man creates.  
> 
> Other option is to edit man.conf to 
> 
> 	PAGER	 less -is
> 
> or equivalent.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom von Schwerdtner [mailto:tvon@etria.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 2:59 PM
> To: gentoo-dev@cvs.gentoo.org
> Cc: Crowfoot, Norman (CCI-Atlanta)
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] man fails under tcsh
> 
> 
> > man breaks when the login shell is csh or tcsh . . . 
> 
> can you be more specific?  man works fine for me.
> 
> Also, there seems to be a tcsh bug in which it tries to parse LS_COLORS
> or 
> somethign related.  Attempting to login to bash and then invoke tcsh
> fails 
> with "unknown colorls variable: 'do'" (off the top of my head).  I dont 
> know much about this, but whomever is maintaining the tcsh ebuild may
> want 
> to look deeper.
> 
> -T
> 
Hi

What Gentoo Linux are you running?  PAGER is a env setting that each
user should customize, but in RC6, it is set in /etc/env.d/00basic.


Greetings,
  MS
--

Martin Schlemmer
Gentoo Linux Developer, Desktop Team Developer
Cape Town, South Africa

RE: [gentoo-dev] man fails under tcsh

[Crowfoot, Norman (CCI-Atlanta)]

I'll get the specific scripts tonight.

The trick with getting tcsh to work from bash:

	> unset LS_COLORS
	> exec bash

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom von Schwerdtner [mailto:tvon@etria.org]
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 2:59 PM
To: gentoo-dev@cvs.gentoo.org
Cc: Crowfoot, Norman (CCI-Atlanta)
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] man fails under tcsh


> man breaks when the login shell is csh or tcsh . . . 

can you be more specific?  man works fine for me.

Also, there seems to be a tcsh bug in which it tries to parse LS_COLORS
or 
somethign related.  Attempting to login to bash and then invoke tcsh
fails 
with "unknown colorls variable: 'do'" (off the top of my head).  I dont 
know much about this, but whomever is maintaining the tcsh ebuild may
want 
to look deeper.

-T

[gentoo-dev] man fails under tcsh

[Crowfoot, Norman (CCI-Atlanta)]

man breaks when the login shell is csh or tcsh . . . internal shell
invocation breaks . . .

Re: [gentoo-dev] man fails under tcsh

[Tom von Schwerdtner]

> man breaks when the login shell is csh or tcsh . . . 

can you be more specific?  man works fine for me.

Also, there seems to be a tcsh bug in which it tries to parse LS_COLORS or 
somethign related.  Attempting to login to bash and then invoke tcsh fails 
with "unknown colorls variable: 'do'" (off the top of my head).  I dont 
know much about this, but whomever is maintaining the tcsh ebuild may want 
to look deeper.

-T