From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <gentoo-dev+bounces-93735-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org> Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AFE161382C5 for <garchives@archives.gentoo.org>; Mon, 8 Feb 2021 09:28:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D0BC3E088F; Mon, 8 Feb 2021 09:28:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 54AA4E0858 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Mon, 8 Feb 2021 09:28:26 +0000 (UTC) From: Sam James <sam@gentoo.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_8AE4E455-8BB3-421A-966F-F08465DE91FA"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.60.0.2.21\)) Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] GTK:2 EOL and incoming migration to GTK:3 Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2021 09:28:16 +0000 References: <0dce5f06-2aaf-8eea-6d76-594c112d1f7b@aisha.cc> To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <0dce5f06-2aaf-8eea-6d76-594c112d1f7b@aisha.cc> Message-Id: <75A06244-6FCF-4B9F-8DAB-7B79107E0310@gentoo.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.60.0.2.21) X-Archives-Salt: 7fd5a9c8-518d-4a81-8c39-5a70d1bc9695 X-Archives-Hash: 6475a0331eccc7df80d2782c560d2cd7 --Apple-Mail=_8AE4E455-8BB3-421A-966F-F08465DE91FA Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On 8 Feb 2021, at 00:52, Aisha Tammy <gentoo.dev@aisha.cc> wrote: >=20 > Hi all, > [snip] > This transition is expected to take a long time so there shouldn't be = a worry about sudden > changes in packages. We are going to keep some of the more important = old GTK:2 ebuilds, > such as the CJK ebuilds, around as long as we have GTK:2 in the tree. = Newer packages are > encouraged to be GTK:3 only. > The starting point of the transition are packages which have GTK:3 = support and optional GTK:2 > support. Most of the bugs of this kind have already been filed[1] and = is the safest > place to start killing off GTK:2. This is completely fair, but I=E2=80=99d just like to add that dropping = GTK 2 should ideally be done in revbumps and given time before stabilisation & cleanup to ease the pain for = users. Yes, it=E2=80=99s been a long time coming, and this is only the first = step, but some people have a sentimental attachment to it, so we should give them time to get used to the new = interfaces rather than yanking it entirely from all versions in the tree where it=E2=80=99s possible. TL;DR: Great, let=E2=80=99s just not rush to cleanup old so people can = revert if issues arise with new designs or whatever in the GUI. >=20 > Best, > Aisha >=20 > [1] https://blog.gtk.org/2020/12/16/gtk-4-0/ > [2] https://bugs.gentoo.org/768993 >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_8AE4E455-8BB3-421A-966F-F08465DE91FA Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGTBAEBCgB9FiEEDAKkjYa742Jdh78b7wpjZrR0UPoFAmAhBDBfFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldDBD MDJBNDhEODZCQkUzNjI1RDg3QkYxQkVGMEE2MzY2QjQ3NDUwRkEACgkQ7wpjZrR0 UPow7gf/QtdgFL9X+UC387IRAFIUsj7yRfVHjxcBHsSSAcX+wA/z2jTXQt5IXEEb JUVNdtIK97/zzsTCeKiKsoq14ZpkgTa/iUz5j2SuHmAMTmjSqUx90Vk1cuatkTid Pitf/zKdGouyQEyva5J5ZeZl12o132o3PbT95tZmyM3aJZYk6HlaAYNSzhGU1abo /ii28+DAKhlzgEhAN4DS6xeFqdETnsFNfKSKVpROMf5FlebmOH70wwhZPbZQmH6K 7e36K8lnim0QqLwhHXqNjgLfHh02jSWGP6t42wLvGhNFdAlKLb9/FINNwYv3WD0G hqBIItVdR0ie2DTpWmI0Fj+3UuUKSg== =chgh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_8AE4E455-8BB3-421A-966F-F08465DE91FA--