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From: "Michał Górny" <mgorny@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: banning "AI"-backed (LLM/GPT/whatever) contributions to Gentoo
Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2024 16:04:58 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <759431674cf90b42a9f003369a3bd5f248091b0b.camel@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <pan$dab93$4e2c8aab$14040300$66909243@cox.net>

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On Fri, 2024-03-08 at 03:59 +0000, Duncan wrote:
> Robin H. Johnson posted on Tue, 5 Mar 2024 06:12:06 +0000 as excerpted:
> 
> > The energy waste argument is also one that needs to be made carefully:
> 
> Indeed.  In a Gentoo context, condemning AI for the computative energy 
> waste?  Maybe someone could argue that effectively.  That someone isn't 
> Gentoo.  Something about people living in glass houses throwing stones...

Could you support that claim with actual numbers?  Particularly,
on average energy use specifically due to use of Gentoo on machines vs.
energy use of dedicated data centers purely for training LLMs?  I'm not
even talking of all the energy wasted as a result of these LLMs at work.

-- 
Best regards,
Michał Górny


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  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-09 15:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-27 14:45 [gentoo-dev] RFC: banning "AI"-backed (LLM/GPT/whatever) contributions to Gentoo Michał Górny
2024-02-27 15:10 ` Arsen Arsenović
2024-02-27 15:21 ` Kenton Groombridge
2024-02-27 15:31   ` Alex Boag-Munroe
2024-02-27 16:11 ` Marek Szuba
2024-02-27 16:29   ` Sam James
2024-02-27 16:48 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2024-02-27 17:02 ` Ionen Wolkens
2024-02-27 17:41 ` Rich Freeman
2024-02-27 18:07   ` Ulrich Mueller
2024-02-27 18:27     ` Kenton Groombridge
2024-02-27 17:46 ` Matthias Maier
2024-02-27 17:50 ` Roy Bamford
2024-02-27 18:40   ` Peter Böhm
2024-02-27 18:04 ` Sam James
2024-03-09 14:57   ` Michał Górny
2024-02-27 19:17 ` Eli Schwartz
2024-02-28  3:05 ` Oskari Pirhonen
2024-02-28  3:12   ` Michał Górny
2024-02-28 10:08     ` Ulrich Mueller
2024-02-28 11:06       ` Matt Jolly
2024-02-28 20:20         ` Eli Schwartz
2024-03-01  7:06         ` Sam James
2024-03-09 15:00           ` Michał Górny
2024-02-28 13:09       ` Michał Górny
2024-02-28 10:34 ` David Seifert
2024-02-28 18:50 ` Arthur Zamarin
2024-02-28 19:26   ` Rich Freeman
2024-03-01  6:33 ` Zoltan Puskas
2024-03-05  6:12 ` Robin H. Johnson
2024-03-06  6:53   ` Oskari Pirhonen
2024-03-08  3:59   ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2024-03-09 15:04     ` Michał Górny [this message]
2024-03-09 21:13       ` Duncan
2024-03-10  1:53         ` Eli Schwartz
2024-03-06 13:53 ` [gentoo-dev] " martin-kokos
2024-03-08  7:09 ` Fco. Javier Felix Belmonte
2024-03-21 15:25 ` Michał Górny
2024-04-15 19:50   ` Jérôme Carretero

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