From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1GJiST-0002MD-7z for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 03:15:41 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.6) with SMTP id k833Ekrr002100; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 03:14:46 GMT Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.224]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k833BA8E028209 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 03:11:11 GMT Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id r21so1657691wxc for ; Sat, 02 Sep 2006 20:11:09 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=OQXyytmFrkfrqIRXW/OdGLMeQWG/S4NJ11NtOCOKGMlZ7Wg54vNJZBIhmwnN5QfNBlnSCM85/8oSfgRUayTZ5PyEIbipTzjb49j0H9H6qAziL0KEZjypqy8PSlk21xt2xejxhuplG99GcwiFRvHihQVrLeiG0pi1or6yUJTkW9Y= Received: by 10.70.7.4 with SMTP id 4mr6525536wxg; Sat, 02 Sep 2006 20:11:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.110.1 with HTTP; Sat, 2 Sep 2006 20:11:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7573e9640609022011m765331ccx52eb96c841a5546f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2006 20:11:08 -0700 From: "Richard Fish" Sender: richard.j.fish@gmail.com To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Democracy: No silver bullet In-Reply-To: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <44ECF00D.7050107@gentoo.org> X-Google-Sender-Auth: cce1e9f3afc298c8 X-Archives-Salt: 7afeff79-2916-4ede-acaf-e4524112db41 X-Archives-Hash: ef2de15fa80b90617ee2efeb88a0e806 On 9/2/06, Wiktor Wandachowicz wrote: > I suppose that there is a way that Gentoo can follow, only that its leaders, > developers and users need to see it clearly. Is there a publicly visible > page that contains current goals for new releases? Where all sub-project > leaders could add their own goals, coherent with the general vision? > I couldn't find it, but maybe I haven't looked in the right places? The problem I see is that for Gentoo the releases are not really useful milestones for most projects. A release is really significant for a few core packages, but what is the real downside for users if Xorg 7.2 is stabilized one week after a release? Outside of the fact that they have to compile it themselves instead of using the GRP package...not much that I see. For a distro like Ubuntu, a release is very significant, as it is the platform that users will be running for the next 6-18 months. Do you think Ubuntu roadmaps would be useful without being tied to a release? Or could project status reports (as discussed here recently) fit the same bill? > Maybe I should raise such concerns to the User Representatives first No, definitely not. The point of user reps (of which I am one) is not to filter communications between devs and users, but to improve the communications between the two camps, among other things. If you want to bring an idea up here directly, nobody should respond with "talk to your userrep". -Richard -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list