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From: Michael Orlitzky <mjo@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 3/3] dev-vcs/hub: migrate to go-module.eclass
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2019 08:29:20 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <74ae34f0-75c5-2416-a09f-9551f18ef321@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190913211930.088d5513@katipo2.lan>

On 9/13/19 5:19 AM, Kent Fredric wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Sep 2019 17:58:08 -0400
> Michael Orlitzky <mjo@gentoo.org> wrote:
> 
>> What kind of math would convince you that an idea with all "cons" and no
>> "pros" is bad?
> 
> Is "upstream tooling doesn't work without static compilation" or
> "built packages tend to need exact version matching at runtime to work"
> ( which necessitates massive-scale multi-slotting, where every version
> of every packaged "thing" has a co-existing slot ) a problem for you?
> 

I see it as a problem, but not one that has to be my problem. I don't
see it as a foregone conclusion that we have to package every piece of
software -- no matter how bad -- and distribute it with the OS that I
use to do my banking.

These languages are badly implemented, and very little of value is
written in them. If their developers ever hit 2+ users, I'm sure they'll
realize that everyone else was right back in the 1970s, and fix the
design. But in the meantime, this stuff belongs in an overlay. Lowering
our standards until they match upstream's is antithetical to how a
distribution is supposed to improve my life.


  reply	other threads:[~2019-09-13 12:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-09-11 17:21 [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 0/3] add eclass to handle go modules William Hubbs
2019-09-11 17:21 ` [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 1/3] go-module.eclass: introduce new " William Hubbs
2019-09-11 17:38   ` Michał Górny
2019-09-11 18:22     ` William Hubbs
2019-09-11 18:31       ` Michał Górny
2019-09-11 19:40         ` William Hubbs
2019-09-11 19:47           ` Michał Górny
2019-09-11 23:11             ` William Hubbs
2019-09-12  5:39               ` Michał Górny
2019-09-12 16:39                 ` William Hubbs
2019-09-12 17:03                   ` Michał Górny
2019-09-12 20:16                     ` Kent Fredric
2019-09-12 21:10                       ` Michał Górny
2019-09-11 23:31   ` Alec Warner
2019-09-12  0:05     ` William Hubbs
2019-09-12  0:28       ` Alec Warner
2019-09-12 15:36         ` William Hubbs
2019-09-12 20:20         ` Kent Fredric
2019-09-12 20:38           ` Alec Warner
2019-09-12 21:12             ` Michał Górny
2019-09-12 22:01               ` Alec Warner
2019-09-13  9:13               ` Kent Fredric
2019-09-11 17:21 ` [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 2/3] app-misc/spire: migrate to go-module.eclass William Hubbs
2019-09-11 17:21 ` [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 3/3] dev-vcs/hub: " William Hubbs
2019-09-11 17:39   ` Michael Orlitzky
2019-09-11 17:47     ` William Hubbs
2019-09-11 17:48       ` Michael Orlitzky
2019-09-11 19:15       ` Kent Fredric
2019-09-11 19:26         ` William Hubbs
2019-09-11 23:34     ` Alec Warner
2019-09-11 23:48       ` William Hubbs
2019-09-12  0:05         ` Alec Warner
2019-09-12 15:46           ` William Hubbs
2019-09-12 16:14             ` Michael Orlitzky
2019-09-12 16:42               ` Alec Warner
2019-09-12 16:52                 ` Michael Orlitzky
2019-09-12 16:55                   ` Mike Gilbert
2019-09-12 17:05                     ` Michael Orlitzky
2019-09-12 17:43                       ` Mike Gilbert
2019-09-12 21:11                         ` Michael Orlitzky
2019-09-12 21:23                           ` Mike Gilbert
2019-09-13  0:14                             ` Michael Orlitzky
2019-09-13  1:56                               ` Alec Warner
2019-09-13  2:16                                 ` Alec Warner
2019-09-13  3:13                               ` Mike Gilbert
2019-09-13 12:11                                 ` Michael Orlitzky
2019-09-12 17:45                   ` Alec Warner
2019-09-12 21:58                     ` Michael Orlitzky
2019-09-13  9:19                       ` Kent Fredric
2019-09-13 12:29                         ` Michael Orlitzky [this message]
2019-09-13 20:17                           ` Patrick McLean
2019-09-13 23:44                             ` Michael Orlitzky
2019-09-14  0:22                               ` Patrick McLean
2019-09-14 17:06                               ` Alec Warner
2019-09-14 22:37                                 ` Michael Orlitzky
2019-09-16  7:54                               ` Kent Fredric
2019-09-14  6:52                             ` Ulrich Mueller
2019-09-13 16:50                     ` Michael Orlitzky
2019-09-13 20:52                       ` Patrick McLean
2019-09-16  8:11                       ` Kent Fredric
2019-09-12 20:10                   ` Kent Fredric
2019-09-12 17:31                 ` Michał Górny
2019-09-12 16:46             ` Alec Warner

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