From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6C332158087 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2022 07:50:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E40472BC061; Fri, 21 Jan 2022 07:50:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from uriel.iewc.co.za (uriel.iewc.co.za [IPv6:2c0f:f720:0:3:d6ae:52ff:feb8:f27b]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3D8DF2BC003 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2022 07:50:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [2c0f:f720:fe16:7800::1] (helo=tauri.local.uls.co.za) by uriel.iewc.co.za with esmtpsa (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1nAoh1-0006je-4y; Fri, 21 Jan 2022 09:50:43 +0200 Received: from [192.168.42.202] by tauri.local.uls.co.za with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1nAoh0-0002bS-7F; Fri, 21 Jan 2022 09:50:42 +0200 Message-ID: <7248b0f8-1b49-a503-7ba0-dad120fe3fa4@uls.co.za> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2022 09:50:41 +0200 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.4.0 Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs: net-mail/mailman and everything that belongs to it Content-Language: en-GB From: Jaco Kroon To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org, =?UTF-8?Q?Hanno_B=c3=b6ck?= References: <20211221122342.472e0dc3@computer> Organization: Ultimate Linux Solutions (Pty) Ltd In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-report: Relay access (uriel.iewc.co.za). X-Archives-Salt: aba27eee-cd77-4769-a72f-1165e8861de5 X-Archives-Hash: 3356be276ff52184f43da7fd75539d0d Hi Hanno, We've decided to for the time being shelf Mailman completely.  We're just about done (should go live with test clients this afternoon) implementing an alternative that we've built in-house to more accurately accommodate for our use-case in any case. I would recommend proceeding to last-rite Mailman and related packages. Kind Regards, Jaco On 2021/12/25 00:30, Jaco Kroon wrote: > Hi Hanno, > > I've started looking at this mess.  And a mess it is.  To the point, > where for our somewhat "subset of what mailman provides" requirements > I'm contemplating rather cooking an in-house solution (have done similar > in the past, but none of these really provide everything we require), > but will get back to you. > > In the current state mailman3 as it is in tree I don't think it's usable > in any sensible way (Unless I'm really missing something), so if I go > another route I recommend we last-rite it and move on.  If I do pick it > up on it, then the problem is solved either way. > > Kind Regards, > Jaco > > On 2021/12/21 13:23, Hanno Böck wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I'm no longer using mailman personally, thus I'm not interested in >> maintaining it any more. >> >> The mailman packages currently in portage are the mailman 3 split >> packages, which involve multiple packages providing the functionality, >> plus a large number of dependencies. (Unfortunately with the switch >> from mailman 2 to 3 upstream decided not only to move from python 2 to >> 3, but also to make the whole thing far more complicated and involve >> far more dependencies...) >> >> If you're interested in maintaining this please add yourself to the >> metadata.xml of these packages: >> >> dev-python/django-allauth >> dev-python/django-appconf >> dev-python/django-compressor >> dev-python/django-extensions >> dev-python/django-gravatar2 >> dev-python/django-haystack >> dev-python/django-picklefield >> dev-python/django-q >> dev-python/python3-openid >> dev-python/rcssmin >> dev-python/robot-detection >> net-mail/django-mailman3 >> net-mail/hyperkitty >> net-mail/mailmanclient >> net-mail/mailman >> net-mail/mailman-meta >> net-mail/postorius >> >> If noone steps up maintaining this I'n not entirely sure what to do >> with it, maybe just remove everything? (Including the python >> dependencies that aren't used by any other package I guess.) >>