From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6CE1B15815E for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2024 17:17:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CF9C7E2A9D; Fri, 9 Feb 2024 17:17:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (dev.gentoo.org [IPv6:2001:470:ea4a:1:5054:ff:fec7:86e4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6B6EEE2A90 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2024 17:17:52 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <6eae895976c68d4c4a4d2036476d4d100c63c797.camel@gentoo.org> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] special small-files USE flag without effect on dependencies: [ unicode ] From: Michael Orlitzky To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2024 12:17:49 -0500 In-Reply-To: References: Autocrypt: addr=mjo@gentoo.org; prefer-encrypt=mutual; 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RYactnqEt/F9xve8HGwk4s98murZtppL1HxT5fshhEExoOdIOs+pouyVYjyar8iSaz6cgpXYIqETwr7HfzgcLGfdEAUgBEXQkrSA== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Evolution 3.50.2 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Archives-Salt: d1ed8b85-090d-4e0f-8f17-d4626a02604f X-Archives-Hash: a5cfda305a44ce428a8c24154865c726 On Fri, 2024-02-09 at 11:57 -0500, Mike Gilbert wrote: >=20 > Based on this pkgcheck issue, this originates from a decision from by > Gentoo QA team. >=20 > https://github.com/pkgcore/pkgcheck/issues/414#issuecomment-1213057268 >=20 Thanks for the dig. I agree with the reasoning for things like USE=3Dbash-completion and USE=3Dvim-syntax, where the added complexity of a flag is not justified to avoid installing small files. In those cases, the additional files simply don't do anything if you don't (for example) use vim. USE=3Dunicode and USE=3Dipv6 are different beasts. In many cases they directly and immediately change the behavior of the package. I think that there are good reasons to want those two disabled, but the user's reasoning shouldn't really matter. The only "problem" in this case is the pkgcheck warning. Upstream supports it, the maintainer supports it, it works, users might want it, and it's one of our selling points. Given all of that, I'm leery of treating it like some kind of mistake.