From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7DB1813832E for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2016 14:10:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 16AEA21C075; Wed, 3 Aug 2016 14:10:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0DAF1E0B27 for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2016 14:10:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (c-73-53-75-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [73.53.75.119]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: zlg) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5D1F4340A51 for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2016 14:10:47 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Package up for grab To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: <57A10D6D.9050902@gentoo.org> <8c7a328a-b28a-ccb6-ff37-02bf397ab0bd@gentoo.org> <57A1269F.8070503@iee.org> <20160803031530.GA1438@meriadoc.perfinion.com> <20160803115823.ufdukakiknxfjppk@gentoo.org> <20160803151318.2763a3e778a0030bb3ec44db@gentoo.org> From: Daniel Campbell Message-ID: <6e4b8735-b469-551f-1160-b608d755f950@gentoo.org> Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2016 07:10:45 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160803151318.2763a3e778a0030bb3ec44db@gentoo.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="RRVVDoOx3o2qNF3Rt997HAw1OvG1VBS2J" X-Archives-Salt: c33a42ad-e86b-462d-96fd-896e4149f4f5 X-Archives-Hash: 4ae3ce5d416e2f89d56e862a49f9a96b This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --RRVVDoOx3o2qNF3Rt997HAw1OvG1VBS2J Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="gsABcHXRpcFVDEefG38DiFGGvFnw5h9iA" From: Daniel Campbell To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Message-ID: <6e4b8735-b469-551f-1160-b608d755f950@gentoo.org> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Package up for grab References: <57A10D6D.9050902@gentoo.org> <8c7a328a-b28a-ccb6-ff37-02bf397ab0bd@gentoo.org> <57A1269F.8070503@iee.org> <20160803031530.GA1438@meriadoc.perfinion.com> <20160803115823.ufdukakiknxfjppk@gentoo.org> <20160803151318.2763a3e778a0030bb3ec44db@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <20160803151318.2763a3e778a0030bb3ec44db@gentoo.org> --gsABcHXRpcFVDEefG38DiFGGvFnw5h9iA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 08/03/2016 05:13 AM, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > On Wed, 3 Aug 2016 08:58:24 -0300 Guilherme Amadio wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 03, 2016 at 11:15:30AM +0800, Jason Zaman wrote: >>> On Tue, Aug 02, 2016 at 04:08:34PM -0700, Jigme Datse Rasku wrote: >>>> I'd have to say, there is likely a reason we are looking for a new >>>> maintainer. I don't know what is involved, but I might be intereste= d. >>>> Might be wanting to start that direction... >>> >>> There is a new alpha skype for linux too now that should be looked in= to. >>> I have no idea how stable it is but it's probably not much worse than= >>> what we currently have :P. >>> >>> https://community.skype.com/t5/Linux/Skype-for-Linux-Alpha-and-callin= g-on-Chrome-amp-Chromebooks/td-p/4434299 >> >> There is also a web version at https://web.skype.com for those that fe= el >> that installing the desktop client is too much of a hassle. I've moved= >> to Google Hangouts long ago, though, and never looked back. >=20 > Lucky you... I also moved to sip and tox ages ago, but... there are > some people that use nothing but skype. That is the problem. >=20 > Best regards, > Andrew Savchenko >=20 Indeed. The network effect is unfortunately powerful. I think if Tox can get past a few key hurdles, adoption will be less of a hassle. All it needs is feature parity with video, voice, and file sharing. Of course, doing that with end-to-end encryption *and* with as little latency and bandwidth use as realistic is difficult. But I try it out every now and then to see if I could convince my family to switch to it. In my experience people don't fully understand or value digital privacy until you explain to them what could be done with the structure of applications like Skype (going through a central server). If they ever reach the point of understanding that, it's easier to get them to simply try Tox or another alternative. --=20 Daniel Campbell - Gentoo Developer OpenPGP Key: 0x1EA055D6 @ hkp://keys.gnupg.net fpr: AE03 9064 AE00 053C 270C 1DE4 6F7A 9091 1EA0 55D6 --gsABcHXRpcFVDEefG38DiFGGvFnw5h9iA-- --RRVVDoOx3o2qNF3Rt997HAw1OvG1VBS2J Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJXoftlAAoJEAEkDpRQOeFwpasQANvAtA7Jg9no44Z9PcdqzG4f otnFwXwOOyOgSZjWkP6X8gbrS64ubIZGeSv33HRGx57IouAWexqCvKgiAatffMOy np/1DjnJHGaiLeL4SWij91dZIbBlgDoMpr8Vg0kYmODVcmyHP0gd1W4L1G42KGVR dcFlWsHGDnsbWSGH65WBLgV4dwaZ7UrkMMWAvVDC8a8fLZq2AOmoiLqYWvEdvOj8 P/NTa6twWZsQgjErbYidlsmlPw6MVfgf11ySZHWqzZXiwKAQVDtuRJqi6A14TDGC 42ifEWLE8QHQ0SUwtUhda5nDaB7y1AQ6IH5+QbtsUvG+ynPClV2sGWBw19/XZDGM Ins9IEDi81MmXjjQ/CcRcgbprG/iVSYBRJalQZDorbMaR0bzRZ227Hbk9s92/fK8 AMd/mMnXVNT/odk4OdD7r/n3M4Ar+mwuJBCsQaC07TNKdhr1cEEyOO4k8r3kvoNh hjXJHfxyZczkxM2X6fJgvnynUsw0MpcuETZvCOmPwTdFV7zghK3vfO6CKXC3RMCz sOOxzHaqijWYTSRwDXn4sKLuAiaxiDG6L4Osvbcw5Pa7ZjPBrGYBfQFn8oyoAP+R mUUNIRfhxnIZ/kNU7EcxpKsNxmpSh6XPmhulefVDu5Es6j/Uu4hOK2fhYDaSHNxN lj2X3tw1XStYyNuUqa7v =gOj3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --RRVVDoOx3o2qNF3Rt997HAw1OvG1VBS2J--