From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <gentoo-dev+bounces-86196-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org> Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8AEA4138334 for <garchives@archives.gentoo.org>; Sat, 20 Oct 2018 08:06:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E7F74E07F9; Sat, 20 Oct 2018 08:06:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:ea4a:1:5054:ff:fec7:86e4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7A4F2E07D7 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Sat, 20 Oct 2018 08:06:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.40] (unknown [87.253.28.222]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: zlogene) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 98EDE335C6F for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Sat, 20 Oct 2018 08:05:44 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Is there any way I can help with pull requests? To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: <d6c41b6b-5872-3210-05d8-1f97ebbd0efd@seichter.de> <20181013135941.73da0a08@symphony.aura-online.co.uk> <afec16bb-2e14-178f-e1ba-919b3e06ed18@gentoo.org> <93a633ce-62d6-2c26-cb49-c6093b05b562@gentoo.org> From: Mikle Kolyada <zlogene@gentoo.org> Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=zlogene@gentoo.org; keydata= xsBNBFtCkdwBCAC7LGb65KM8ZhysEDzbBnggTsUMXMZ3pJWFQtLaxm8f99p2HL9GFcEP94A6 BXExWzMcIba/AdL0ogU2mS/Jbs7DHUFVRT3yQDtiq+md5h3hZvi52QyRlELWG9ElDLuUse5E 58WJgLx+SXD5qgUowqTgCzNbXAJQNKQtNWIC+Zy29m53Xj8yBnRsRuwd0kO/Zn7DJL5dCKL2 ItzfJNpG5MTayLyNkl3QgCqPPFsQEd7aqqqhxq1pn/dwX22vyMJwsv/6SV5vaNTYSg9p8hVn r3mLVYg6/UIvwAIgNJKhQlG1bkoOq5+jgq8a7GdRUeY8fHSqLERucmal8fBqWmvZH+jRABEB AAHNIk1pa2xlIEtvbHlhZGEgPHpsb2dlbmVAZ2VudG9vLm9yZz7CwJQEEwEIAD4CGwMFCwkI BwIGFQoJCAsCBBYCAwECHgECF4AWIQRRPEwdu6XuhrjZQ70+fhwhqdFLlwUCW2fApgUJBEPe ygAKCRA+fhwhqdFLl7CeB/9qYF51wrMuzpLW/znrH0YZmYo9pm7kmLxbWezJH74hH97rJOer X+RoNR0nAGrBdZzObiHWhXah5BFrln8Fyv8oE5IDnO9OCN+PE8hXSSSYv6VvtNX6FXgMaqvR XC5kd1/ugvpPmwbbfTp0uasRATjlsXSfb7FAMLAcP2lYbv1dFA2mUHNCtFtIg7Zu+KJTXyeN wPEXrMtgt4j3zL96Drq1AOxkR5D5pPYnzJG+xrOpRoarXVjCI6MsYYKd+E6WRQPIgkeY4mxK FBK3sSNQMAY+FNiWNK3G4529zCLzekv4KQHDSRnfOhfevOogiUCnNUWl9pRDI7uRfSjP0JZw wLi2zsBNBFtCk/QBCACuhNxkqiD1BPetgXo8NZFWTUwGwmAMzleXZqZmo/lNU4TBeBA27p/m vCx8A1GoJ2xJ+Gfeh1iY9ahjLWFEIVl5dwMRzqXm0bklEa31IjGsIU+x+d+ljaHmWX3JzGK9 4p/eD7FQ7vZQS0Nj3v1bQtnb/HEM5pZ3lcYq34OadyzHi8yS0KLnhrgzclacsmp/Hmc/uAhZ c2rOoQRQUhnY1skWk+7z2NvOCVVyB+lZWoOKuc6TXvCHULXlgWRkeV6T4SvBux9LaEYRKqkl G7mrcxq1hZi9XAaAKR205HBaC5Up0FLew4Sj4gUixySCWdHeWr4SVeN7q9UWqlwkAHQr0Awx ABEBAAHCwHwEGAEIACYWIQRRPEwdu6XuhrjZQ70+fhwhqdFLlwUCW0KT9AIbDAUJAeEzgAAK CRA+fhwhqdFLl8OaCAC5LukojlzCg+hsLDXSGt0zaj751ZGdUjcRkkU8UobjJ57tGqBvynl/ spjcmcZrguFBSnA/+xOKfGC6kczr8H4OOkAIU8omwS1rikcQ2QzYfTx5hIlhVcKXVCJOutR3 hgbdnnKEBhku+x8OwGsqkvCnRz0T84vwFhnvYvVg4Nn2H/sOddBDZQa6bpIZSppb1R2sc4Pw 9zufGLod02DL16ePFgrcW552HmteIiXwYSx5/DZu8Rwg/HYh/RXDaNZNDyO5YE/XRfP3Q7ok fEoGK/ojHemB5iDi75RPSwCr1czTEewZHGQBc+yZRGHVXousxXnqFlk8MAUWuiXJngVtMeVq Message-ID: <67c436af-ef56-d3d6-65fe-03381d5c49df@gentoo.org> Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2018 11:05:39 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <93a633ce-62d6-2c26-cb49-c6093b05b562@gentoo.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="MW729oiXMliebD9XR5xWjqbLNex02PM4a" X-Archives-Salt: 3225b668-4ed5-44e4-a5c7-52ce8b34f8ed X-Archives-Hash: e0744d769a4db442f69a6cc7b2083b56 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --MW729oiXMliebD9XR5xWjqbLNex02PM4a Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="eD2PBXW96751nQEiKnd8YZlvUzTk8oIGj"; protected-headers="v1" From: Mikle Kolyada <zlogene@gentoo.org> To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Message-ID: <67c436af-ef56-d3d6-65fe-03381d5c49df@gentoo.org> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Is there any way I can help with pull requests? References: <d6c41b6b-5872-3210-05d8-1f97ebbd0efd@seichter.de> <20181013135941.73da0a08@symphony.aura-online.co.uk> <afec16bb-2e14-178f-e1ba-919b3e06ed18@gentoo.org> <93a633ce-62d6-2c26-cb49-c6093b05b562@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <93a633ce-62d6-2c26-cb49-c6093b05b562@gentoo.org> --eD2PBXW96751nQEiKnd8YZlvUzTk8oIGj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en-US On 20.10.2018 03:33, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 10/13/2018 02:32 PM, Mikle Kolyada wrote: >> Quizzes are irrelevant, a person does the quizzes when he/she is >> ready to be the dev, doing quizzes for quizzes or quizzes to become a >> developer is the best way to get rejected by the recruiters team. > I thought this was kind of a strange thing to say, but just ignored > it... not realizing that you were the recruiters lead. Well, people know that recruiters have the opinion about quizzes, so they think it is pointless to discuss :) > > Why do you say that working on the quizzes will get you rejected? I had= > a very positive experience while taking them and learned a lot. The main problem is that lots of (not all) people think, if they have quizzes done, they are ready to be developers, some of them even think if they copy-pas= ted the answer and give us the quote it is ok and they will pass. The answer = for both statements is no. > I've > recommended them to potential contributors in the past as a way to > highlight the areas where they might need to improve, and to generally > improve their knowledge of the devmanual. Quzzes are being treated as an obstacle to be a dev, like "wow, I have to answer so much questions to be the dev, I have no time for this". The short answer is: "if you have no time to fill quizzes you are not ready to be the dev",=C2= =A0 people who are ready spend very little amount of time filling them with zero difficulty. > > Once the new developer finds a mentor, I would think it saves everyone > valuable time if he has a first draft of the quiz prepared. > --eD2PBXW96751nQEiKnd8YZlvUzTk8oIGj-- --MW729oiXMliebD9XR5xWjqbLNex02PM4a Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEWmyBGnI+Eihw6dN8HICQJIqVl8cFAlvK4dcACgkQHICQJIqV l8e6DggAnIPRN8V8H8U+BzliZjTekQwRvcAo3hpOn1ZF+Q4mk5lArdNfGYqSsThq 9nCMcs5wqyrC1SEM918svjWF8ZOdgtreuzVVL3kRoDgJHWNFBln9HCnKhidTQqB3 j8zrHVK0RoTWa9rAP1V8//nKtrX0F7NZ/wsPEkkx5CarrnsVtTRkt7zjwD/j3toC KCc3qxcJu0KGEDtrQZVL8Ibn63gDfMyy3A0GIQSRMKsVDIez/affFhSTJEhhtgcT RyGn/Krh/FfnO0pxzzDf3SOFpoj7DmI/6TQrKhrUivp8XEn6uHg5EUnvSMQZeiy1 FdYPIu9YXKhcF1MP/4idQnMH09rNgw== =ytlm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --MW729oiXMliebD9XR5xWjqbLNex02PM4a--