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From: "Chris Bainbridge" <chris.bainbridge@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Resignation (was: Project Sunrise resumed)
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 14:46:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <623652d50608020646r28ebb1bcqeb79b84b9a6b303e@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200608020224.29733.carlo@gentoo.org>

On 02/08/06, Carsten Lohrke <carlo@gentoo.org> wrote:
> On Monday 31 July 2006 04:52, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > On Sunday 30 July 2006 22:28, Dan Meltzer wrote:
> > > 1) Users can submit patches/ideas to bugs.g.o at whatever frequency
> > > they desire, contributing to gentoo casually.
> >
> > load up your browser and check out how many bugs are assigned
> > to 'maintainer-wanted@gentoo.org'
>
> This isn't the problem. We'll never can maintain all this stuff - given the
> number of people we're. We need more devs - just to clean up the current tree
> and maintain it properly at it's current size one- or two hundred (having
> fluctuation in mind) more guys wouldn't harm. The problem is more that we
> have devs who constantly add (arbitrary) stuff to the tree, instead cleaning
> out and caring for unmaintained stuff, before adding something new.

The real problem which you're hinting at is that developer interest is
transitory. Nobody thinks "Hell, I'll just add loads of odd crap to
the tree and then ignore it", it just happens that people suddenly
become interested in some software (maybe for a project, or client..),
use it for a while, and then stop using it. Now they are still listed
as a maintainer but don't bother version bumping or bug fixing, since
they no longer have an interest in the package. Despite this, people
keep posting patches to bugzilla, which are ignored (they are lots of
user bug reports with simple patch fixes attached that never make it
into the tree). The "maintainer for ever" model is broken; hopefully
the community maintainer model that Sunrise is encouraging will prove
better over time.
-- 
gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list



  reply	other threads:[~2006-08-02 13:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 115+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-07-27 21:58 [gentoo-dev] Project Sunrise resumed Stefan Schweizer
2006-07-27 22:21 ` Stephen P. Becker
2006-07-27 22:29   ` [gentoo-dev] " Stefan Schweizer
2006-07-28  9:36   ` [gentoo-dev] " Martin Schlemmer
2006-07-30 21:54   ` Mike Frysinger
2006-07-30 22:47     ` Stephen P. Becker
2006-07-30 22:58       ` Andrew Gaffney
2006-07-31  2:00       ` Alex Tarkovsky
2006-07-31  7:41         ` Jan Kundrát
2006-07-31 10:35         ` Roy Bamford
2006-07-31  2:21       ` Mike Frysinger
2006-07-31 10:10     ` Giacomo Cariello
2006-07-27 23:55 ` [gentoo-dev] Resignation (was: Project Sunrise resumed) Henrik Brix Andersen
2006-07-28  6:31   ` [gentoo-dev] Resignation Josh Saddler
2006-07-28  7:34     ` Henrik Brix Andersen
2006-07-28  9:37   ` [gentoo-dev] Resignation (was: Project Sunrise resumed) Christel Dahlskjaer
     [not found]   ` <1154079324.8825.54.camel@lycan.lan>
2006-07-28 10:02     ` Henrik Brix Andersen
2006-07-28 10:37       ` Martin Schlemmer
2006-07-30 21:51       ` Mike Frysinger
2006-07-30 22:07         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-31  2:19           ` Mike Frysinger
2006-07-31  2:28             ` Dan Meltzer
2006-07-31  2:42               ` Seemant Kulleen
2006-07-31  2:53                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-31  5:05                   ` [gentoo-dev] Project Sunrise resumed again (was Resignation) Seemant Kulleen
     [not found]                     ` <20060731063003.2a5f018a@snowdrop.home>
2006-07-31  5:38                       ` Seemant Kulleen
2006-07-31  5:53                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-31  6:09                           ` Mike Frysinger
2006-07-31  6:37                           ` Seemant Kulleen
2006-07-31  6:47                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-31  7:13                               ` Joshua Jackson
2006-07-31  8:22                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-31 13:54                                 ` Mike Kelly
2006-08-02 14:53                               ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-08-02  0:24                     ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-08-02  0:41                       ` Alec Warner
2006-08-02  0:49                         ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-08-02  1:39                       ` Brian Harring
2006-08-02  9:21                         ` Thierry Carrez
2006-08-02  9:33                           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-08-02  9:41                             ` Denis Dupeyron
2006-08-02  9:51                               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-08-02 10:23                                 ` Roy Bamford
2006-08-02 10:19                             ` Alex Tarkovsky
2006-08-02 11:50                               ` Jochen Maes
2006-08-02 11:51                               ` Jochen Maes
2006-08-02 12:19                               ` Stephen P. Becker
2006-08-02 19:49                                 ` Alex Tarkovsky
2006-08-02 15:56                                   ` Alec Warner
2006-08-02 20:32                                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-08-02 21:30                                     ` Jakub Moc
2006-08-02 18:05                         ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-08-03  2:56                           ` Brian Harring
2006-08-03  3:09                             ` Lance Albertson
2006-08-03  3:27                             ` Lance Albertson
2006-08-03  4:11                               ` Brian Harring
2006-08-03  5:22                               ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-08-03  9:46                               ` Roy Bamford
2006-08-03 10:11                                 ` Bryan Ãstergaard
2006-08-03 11:00                             ` Sune Kloppenborg Jeppesen
2006-08-03 16:21                             ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-08-03 17:53                               ` Patrick Lauer
2006-07-31  2:52               ` [gentoo-dev] Resignation (was: Project Sunrise resumed) Mike Frysinger
2006-08-02  0:24                 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-08-02 13:46                   ` Chris Bainbridge [this message]
2006-08-02 14:27               ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-08-02 14:34                 ` Roy Marples
2006-08-02 19:53                   ` Alex Tarkovsky
2006-08-02 20:04                     ` Wernfried Haas
2006-07-31  2:35             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-31  2:50               ` Seemant Kulleen
2006-07-31  3:06                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-31  3:23                   ` Seemant Kulleen
2006-07-31  3:32                   ` Brett I. Holcomb
2006-07-31  3:42                     ` Seemant Kulleen
2006-07-31  3:50                       ` Brett I. Holcomb
2006-07-31  4:21                         ` Seemant Kulleen
2006-07-31 11:01                           ` [gentoo-dev] Resignation Christian Andreetta
2006-07-31 12:53                             ` Bryan Ãstergaard
2006-08-03  6:49                               ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-08-03  8:07                                 ` Bryan Ãstergaard
2006-08-02  0:46                             ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-08-02  3:50                               ` Richard Fish
2006-08-02 18:04                                 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-07-31  5:33                         ` [gentoo-dev] Resignation (was: Project Sunrise resumed) Rumen Yotov
2006-07-31  3:45                     ` Mike Frysinger
2006-07-31  4:20                     ` Alex Tarkovsky
2006-07-31  4:27                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-31  4:36                         ` Seemant Kulleen
2006-07-31  4:46                           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-31  4:55                         ` [gentoo-dev] Resignation Joshua Jackson
2006-07-31 13:08                           ` Denis Dupeyron
2006-07-31 14:08                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-31  5:15                         ` [gentoo-dev] Resignation (was: Project Sunrise resumed) Alex Tarkovsky
2006-07-31  5:22                         ` [gentoo-dev] Re: Resignation Ryan Hill
2006-07-31  5:32                           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-31  6:10                             ` Ryan Hill
2006-07-31  6:21                               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-31  6:33                                 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-07-31  8:10                             ` Simon Stelling
2006-07-31  8:21                               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-31 10:47                                 ` Georgi Georgiev
2006-08-03  6:58                                 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-08-03 15:36                                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-31  8:44                 ` [gentoo-dev] Resignation (was: Project Sunrise resumed) Bryan Ãstergaard
2006-07-31  9:21                   ` [gentoo-dev] Resignation Jakub Moc
2006-07-31  9:56                     ` Bryan Ãstergaard
2006-07-31 10:09                       ` Jakub Moc
2006-07-31  2:53               ` [gentoo-dev] Resignation (was: Project Sunrise resumed) Mike Frysinger
2006-07-31 10:28               ` Roy Bamford
     [not found]             ` <1154340702l.9965l.0l@spike>
2006-07-31 11:01               ` [gentoo-dev] Resignation Giacomo Cariello
2006-07-31 12:30                 ` Roy Bamford
2006-07-30 20:35   ` [gentoo-dev] Resignation (was: Project Sunrise resumed) Sune Kloppenborg Jeppesen
2006-08-01  0:53   ` [gentoo-dev] Resignation Doug Goldstein
2006-08-01  8:41     ` Henrik Brix Andersen

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