From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1FMV1X-0004eB-FG for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 18:59:07 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.5) with SMTP id k2NIvXYJ001572; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 18:57:33 GMT Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.194]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k2NItGbp011740 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 18:55:17 GMT Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i6so743320wra for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 10:55:15 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=fFT6fWSC9VsJEiKuyNYJPJLfZh/0/yMPaMzr7wfHxq7zz4haJVoA4zR1x5JjYZI0uqAJ1ClWOt451Zz/o2YODjnfYcOmYfJcAxWLrYeI9Hm5L1YwmR5dBFkEEAB4Y5k9qaX0j9Akzg7pGCKkegtvV1Xenl3Wpaehz9uwWOA65JQ= Received: by 10.54.86.19 with SMTP id j19mr1540854wrb; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 10:55:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.157.1 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 10:55:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <623652d50603231055k43435b0dp@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 18:55:15 +0000 From: "Chris Bainbridge" To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Official overlay support In-Reply-To: <1143138330.14434.54.camel@cgianelloni.nuvox.net> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <441F35B9.8000406@gentoo.org> <4421836A.8040000@gentoo.org> <1143123468.14434.5.camel@cgianelloni.nuvox.net> <1143127901.14434.33.camel@cgianelloni.nuvox.net> <623652d50603230840t13ba6520g@mail.gmail.com> <1143138330.14434.54.camel@cgianelloni.nuvox.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by robin.gentoo.org id k2NItGbp011740 X-Archives-Salt: d2b2fb91-e6bf-49da-b974-e1f5c25434c1 X-Archives-Hash: 1f03938d5b7ccb1c7a209b4a280ca125 On 23/03/06, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > On Thu, 2006-03-23 at 16:40 +0000, Chris Bainbridge wrote: > > If the software a user wants is in an overlay, then the user will be > > forced to install the overlay. > > It shouldn't be in the overlay, is I think the point many are trying to > make. If the software is good enough for any of our users, it should be > good enough for the tree. I agree. I would ask, what are the advantages of overlays that developers find so compelling that they use them rather than the portage tree? Would it not be a better idea to find a way to bring those advantages to the tree, rather the proliferation of overlays we are seeing? > > There is a discussion on the forums at the moment along a similar > > topic http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-443469.html - the vote > > seems to indicate 58% of users are "not really happy with the way the > > portage tree is handled". > > No. It indicates nothing except that 58% of the 80 people who filled > out the poll are "not really happy with the way the portage tree is > handled" which by my counts, isn't even a drop in the bucket of our > number of users, making the statistic completely worthless. True. Nevertheless, it is the only statistic I have seen regarding users thoughts on this subject. Of course a larger sample size would be preferable. There should be more feedback from users - bug voting on bugzilla would be a start, why has it never been enabled? -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list