From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1FMSvr-0001K1-Ds for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 16:45:07 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.5) with SMTP id k2NGi5Lj012290; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 16:44:05 GMT Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k2NGewoZ003917 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 16:41:00 GMT Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i4so712595wra for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 08:40:58 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=cfEiQuk9T0CBzVSSzPCiHE/yMJWrb+mbHtnNQ7A67t782M99ENGJAH0i+3pLqLtAiPkXGoAL9n3v2Mg03hkGj4dJC0zCLih8x6aWIR8RA5D7XDvxJOuB/Bfk/fUjhNGT5JItl+5vfSiXkK+fofoElCkcRrEe2ZbnQBAjs2g70nI= Received: by 10.54.79.12 with SMTP id c12mr1454593wrb; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 08:40:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.157.1 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 08:40:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <623652d50603230840t13ba6520g@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 16:40:58 +0000 From: "Chris Bainbridge" To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Official overlay support In-Reply-To: <1143127901.14434.33.camel@cgianelloni.nuvox.net> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <441F35B9.8000406@gentoo.org> <4421836A.8040000@gentoo.org> <1143123468.14434.5.camel@cgianelloni.nuvox.net> <1143127901.14434.33.camel@cgianelloni.nuvox.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by robin.gentoo.org id k2NGewoZ003917 X-Archives-Salt: fbe7dae6-0043-4200-beea-10e01693973d X-Archives-Hash: f30b5e6cd0545e1b2a7ed1472ff10a3b On 23/03/06, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > On Thu, 2006-03-23 at 14:41 +0000, Stuart Herbert wrote: > > Your nightmare scenario seems unavoidable. Enabling per-overlay bug > > tracking doesn't stop users posting bugs in bugzilla. It just causes > > confusion for users, because they're not sure where to go. Normally, > > it's not a problem - because the overlay contributors are normally the > > owners of the real package. > > No, it does not stop them, but it sure will curb the number of users > posting their bugs to the wrong place. Remember that only more advanced > users are the ones using overlays. We won't have Joe Sixpack using an > overlay. Instead it'll be Bob Developer-to-be. If the software a user wants is in an overlay, then the user will be forced to install the overlay. Another thing that some people may not have considered - with many developers using various permutations of overlays, how can you guarantee that what is being checked into the main tree will build for a normal user? In order to test that, a developer would have to disable all overlays, unemerge everything provided by the overlays, and then build and test with a plain "non-overlay" gentoo. That's a lot of work; I doubt most developers are doing it. There is a discussion on the forums at the moment along a similar topic http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-443469.html - the vote seems to indicate 58% of users are "not really happy with the way the portage tree is handled". -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list