From: Sven Eden <sven.eden@gmx.de>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] How to support C++11 in libraries?
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 09:58:25 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6224179.BWgg760IdH@sed-notebook> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131218085447.56d1e133@gentoo.org>
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Am Mittwoch, 18. Dezember 2013, 08:54:47 schrieb Michał Górny:
> This raises the following question: how do we want to do it? I see two
> possibilities:
>
> a) adding USE=c++11 and USE-deps to all the packages in question,
>
> b) doing the switch via synchronous version bump and matching
> dependencies.
>
(snip)
>
> What are your thoughts?
I have already switched to C++11 on all my projects ages ago. It offers a lot,
and the incompatibilities are rare at best.
C++11 is the current standard with the next being worked on already.
What is the rationale for staying with C++03 or (worse) C++98 in the first
place? Nothing is gained. Only the need to fix what becomes broken.
( And a lot breakage can occur from using something like
#include <tr1/cstdint>
Instead of the C++11
#include <cstdint>
... Breakages that are trivial to fix ... )
And as C++11 is stricter in many places, I consider a program failing to
compile with -std=c++11 to be broken and buggy per se, and needing to be fixed
asap anyway. (I consider any C program failing to compile with g++ broken as
well, allthough the cases might be more complex.)
So I'd go the reverse way. Make CXXFLAGS="-std=c++11" the default, and only
override this for packages that do fishy stuff and break with it.
But of course this must be tested thoroughly first. I have some extra time to
spare in the first three weeks of january, and I've already planned to do an
'emerge -e @world' with c++11 as a global default anyway.
Cheers
Sven
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Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-12-18 7:54 [gentoo-dev] How to support C++11 in libraries? Michał Górny
2013-12-18 8:20 ` "C. Bergström"
2013-12-18 18:07 ` Michał Górny
2013-12-18 13:58 ` heroxbd
2013-12-18 16:29 ` Jan Kundrát
2013-12-18 16:37 ` "C. Bergström"
2013-12-18 16:50 ` Jan Kundrát
2013-12-18 17:05 ` "C. Bergström"
2013-12-18 17:33 ` Jan Kundrát
2013-12-18 17:47 ` Kent Fredric
2013-12-18 17:56 ` "C. Bergström"
2013-12-19 1:45 ` heroxbd
2013-12-19 8:20 ` Michał Górny
2013-12-19 8:28 ` "C. Bergström"
2013-12-19 8:35 ` Michał Górny
2013-12-19 8:44 ` "C. Bergström"
2013-12-19 12:28 ` Jan Kundrát
2013-12-19 8:45 ` Jan Kundrát
2013-12-19 8:47 ` Georg Rudoy
2013-12-18 17:49 ` "C. Bergström"
2013-12-18 18:28 ` Georg Rudoy
2013-12-19 1:41 ` heroxbd
2013-12-19 8:43 ` Jan Kundrát
2013-12-19 9:18 ` Michał Górny
2013-12-19 13:47 ` heroxbd
2013-12-19 14:46 ` Michał Górny
2013-12-19 15:12 ` heroxbd
2013-12-19 16:56 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2013-12-19 15:17 ` Jan Kundrát
2013-12-19 16:29 ` vivo75
2013-12-19 16:51 ` Jan Kundrát
2013-12-21 2:36 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
2013-12-18 18:15 ` [gentoo-dev] " Michał Górny
2013-12-18 20:58 ` [gentoo-dev] " Martin Vaeth
2013-12-19 2:01 ` [gentoo-dev] " heroxbd
2013-12-18 14:27 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-12-18 18:10 ` Anthony G. Basile
2013-12-18 18:28 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-12-19 8:58 ` Sven Eden [this message]
2013-12-19 9:07 ` Michał Górny
2013-12-19 15:00 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-12-19 15:23 ` Jan Kundrát
2013-12-19 16:00 ` Anthony G. Basile
2013-12-20 9:00 ` [gentoo-dev] " Martin Vaeth
2013-12-20 12:35 ` [gentoo-dev] " Jan Kundrát
2013-12-20 17:35 ` [gentoo-dev] " Martin Vaeth
2013-12-20 11:56 ` [gentoo-dev] " Sven Eden
2013-12-20 12:45 ` Jan Kundrát
2013-12-20 12:54 ` Georg Rudoy
2013-12-20 17:49 ` [gentoo-dev] " Martin Vaeth
2013-12-20 15:10 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ian Stakenvicius
2013-12-19 15:51 ` Anthony G. Basile
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